Let's measure those skulls and settle this once and for all

Nah we look at earlobes like when Ribbentrop met with Stalin to make sure he wasn't a jew

(THIS IS WHAT GERMANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE)

All that race science s*** i refuse to believe these mfers were earnest, they all knew they were capping deep down

Hidden knowledge

DO NOT RESEARCH

Heh..we dont talk about that...or which political leader participated in the Bavarian Soviet Republic

Idk what he is, I should've said sympathetic to the tigrayans. his take on the war is that both sides elites are manipulating people into dying for their power struggle

People always say that and then end up supporting capitalists anyway lmao

Oh well yeah i feel bad for the tigrayans too, but TPLF is def the one to blame tho

You're african?

Algerian/Nigerien

I thought you was a lightskinned American for the longest time I'm from Chad we neighbours

Very few KAKS in this thread

Noooooo but all soycialists are upper
middle class white people with too much white guilt how can this be

LMAO

Imagine reading lenin and disagreeing with those points

pack it up bros, immortal science of marxism-leninism has been DEBUNKED…

Growth in finance would lead to wars. Nope!

goated thread

Just finished, I rate it 6/7 out of 10. Decent introduction to economic planning that's easily digestible, but a stink of Westoid permeates throughout the book. If you've read Cockshott etc. there's probably no reason to read this.

The authors main theses is "If planning doesn't work, why do the worlds most successful corporations such as Walmart and Amazon rely so heavily on planning their operations?". Essentially, planning is not some infeasible or utopian hypothetical that doesn't work, planning is already utilized by the worlds largest corporations and states as well.

• The central hotbed of publicly planned innovation was the postwar Pentagon, coordinating government agencies that would prove responsible for the initial development of computers, jet aircraft, nuclear energy, lasers, and, contemporarily, much of biotechnology. Its approach built upon the method of partnership between government and science for basic and applied research that was pioneered by the Manhattan Project

Companies such as Sears that introduced internal markets within their company and encouraged competition between sectors ended in complete disaster/bankruptcy. Rather than being the most efficient system, the market is highly chaotic and volatile operating under its own internal laws free of human control. The market only does what's profitable and is incapable of solving global issues such as poverty, climate change, inequality, etc. The market produces things that are detrimental yet profitable (e.g. fossil fuels) and doesn't produce things that are useful but not profitable (vaccines, antibiotics, renewable energy, etc.) without the help of state-subsidies. basically the market sucks, ig this part is repeated a lot to convince the reformist AOC type people who may be reading this book

The market hinders innovation and progress by only doing what's profitable.

The authors don't actually argue that "Since Walmart plans, and planning = socialism, Walmart is socialist". The planning of Walmart relies on maximizing profits and squeezing employees as much as possible. In contrast, socialist planning would be used to improve the material conditions of society as a whole. However, economic planning has to be democratic with vast amount of input from the workers. It has to be organized from the "bottom up" instead of the hierarchal, top-down approach used by Walmart and the USSR (two examples of undemocratic planning given by the authors lol). The USSR was also planning without a coherent vision and under the rule of boogieman Stalin who killed everyone he disagreed with.

An example of democratic economic planning is Allende's Cybersyn. The authors shoutout Cockshott and explain how supercomputers, algorithms, and other nerd stuff can be used to democratically plan economies, and how Cybersyn was used to help counter the reactionary CIA backed trucker protest of 1972.

• Science and technology could be tools used by workers to help democratically coordinate society, from the bottom up, leaping over the centralization/ decentralization dichotomy... She argues that Cybersyn simply faded into the background, "as infrastructure often does." The system did not tell the workers what to do; the workers and their representatives in government simply used the system as a tool to aid them in doing what they wanted to do"

anyways that was just the warmup, now its time for the main course

LIONED if u may

Thanks for the review comrade
I guess the book is good for redpilling normies
U already read TANS I assume?