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  • Apr 23, 2022
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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    anyways haven’t posted here before, Maoist gang checking in 🙋🏼‍♀️

    Whos alt

  • space0cadet

    Whos alt

    Not a alt but you real for Machine Girl in your top artists saw them before they started to blow up in 2015 at a house show

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

    Grover Furr?

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    space0cadet

    Whos alt


  • Apr 23, 2022

    Who tf is amplitude

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    Grover Furr?

    Nah its from the polemic on the general line 1965, the Chinese critiques of the CPSU

    It comes from this part

    ON THE QUESTION OF STALIN
    Second Comment on the Open Letter of the Central Committee
    of the CPSU
    by the Editorial Departments of Renmin Ribao (People's Daily) and Hongqi (Red Flag)
    (September 13, 1963)

  • Apr 23, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    Nah its from the polemic on the general line 1965, the Chinese critiques of the CPSU

    It comes from this part

    ON THE QUESTION OF STALIN
    Second Comment on the Open Letter of the Central Committee
    of the CPSU
    by the Editorial Departments of Renmin Ribao (People's Daily) and Hongqi (Red Flag)
    (September 13, 1963)

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    anyways haven’t posted here before, Maoist gang checking in 🙋🏼‍♀️

    Welcome comrade

  • Apr 23, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Welcome comrade

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    Hello friends, I have a question, apologies in advance if it's a stupid one, I kind of just started my journey into socialism this month.

    I'm struggling to understand how the rate of profit tends to fall when there's a decrease in surplus value. Wouldn't that work to their benefit?

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    GoldLink

    Hello friends, I have a question, apologies in advance if it's a stupid one, I kind of just started my journey into socialism this month.

    I'm struggling to understand how the rate of profit tends to fall when there's a decrease in surplus value. Wouldn't that work to their benefit?

    Wouldnt what work to whose benefit ?

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    Wouldnt what work to whose benefit ?

    The capitalist, less wages = more profit for them right?

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    GoldLink

    The capitalist, less wages = more profit for them right?

    In short term yes in long term no since there are less consumers as well to make the capitalist rich

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    ARCADE GOON

    In short term yes in long term no since there are less consumers as well to make the capitalist rich

    Ahhh ok I thought that might've been the reason, thank you brother.

  • Apr 23, 2022
    GoldLink

    Hello friends, I have a question, apologies in advance if it's a stupid one, I kind of just started my journey into socialism this month.

    I'm struggling to understand how the rate of profit tends to fall when there's a decrease in surplus value. Wouldn't that work to their benefit?

    Well when there's a decrease in surplus value relative to the amount of value created, that means the rate of profit would automatically have to fall

  • Apr 23, 2022
    GoldLink

    Ahhh ok I thought that might've been the reason, thank you brother.

    One of the many contradictions of capitalism hence why we emphasize that term contradiction so much

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    Scratchin Mamba

    I'll be honest i don't rly have any principled reason why im not rn

    Just convenience and the fact that it's food that can help me reach my goals in fitness while also being tasty

    But i think i will transition to a vegan diet tho eventually

    one step at a time

  • Womanpuncher69

    Nah its from the polemic on the general line 1965, the Chinese critiques of the CPSU

    It comes from this part

    ON THE QUESTION OF STALIN
    Second Comment on the Open Letter of the Central Committee
    of the CPSU
    by the Editorial Departments of Renmin Ribao (People's Daily) and Hongqi (Red Flag)
    (September 13, 1963)

    I got a first edition of the Polemic on the General Line of the International Communist Movement for $10 at a local bookstore its a collection of all the documents from the Great Line Struggle and has this one in there too. One of my favorites

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  • Apr 23, 2022
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    GoldLink

    Ahhh ok I thought that might've been the reason, thank you brother.

    Also the question about the rate of profit falling has to do with what @ARCADE_GOON said about lower wages leading to a smaller consumer base for capitalists and also automation.

    When a certain part of the production process is automated this brings higher profits for its earliest adopters, however as other competitors adopt the same technology, prices are driven down and the increased profits from that automation are no more. As a matter of fact, since labor is the only commodity thay creates value because unlike tools etc. it's part in the production process is not completely self-depleting. So now you have less value created relative to capital invested -> rate of profit falling.

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    plants
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    one step at a time

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Also the question about the rate of profit falling has to do with what @ARCADE_GOON said about lower wages leading to a smaller consumer base for capitalists and also automation.

    When a certain part of the production process is automated this brings higher profits for its earliest adopters, however as other competitors adopt the same technology, prices are driven down and the increased profits from that automation are no more. As a matter of fact, since labor is the only commodity thay creates value because unlike tools etc. it's part in the production process is not completely self-depleting. So now you have less value created relative to capital invested -> rate of profit falling.

    Thank you

  • Apr 23, 2022
    GoldLink

    Thank you

    Ofc bro and if you got any questions don't hesitate to ask em itt all of us didn't understand the basics at some point

  • Apr 23, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Also the question about the rate of profit falling has to do with what @ARCADE_GOON said about lower wages leading to a smaller consumer base for capitalists and also automation.

    When a certain part of the production process is automated this brings higher profits for its earliest adopters, however as other competitors adopt the same technology, prices are driven down and the increased profits from that automation are no more. As a matter of fact, since labor is the only commodity thay creates value because unlike tools etc. it's part in the production process is not completely self-depleting. So now you have less value created relative to capital invested -> rate of profit falling.

    And also it gets harder and harder to compete because more technology is needed to keep up with the rest, e.g. imagine how much tech and infrastructure you would need to compete with Amazon. This results in more labor invested just to upkeep machinery and "dead capital" rather than to create new stuff amd profit off workers by skimming on their wages. You can't skim on a robot's costs the way you can do against a human worker

    @Barcelona

  • GoldLink

    Thank you

    Highly recommend checking this out if you want a very accessible, yet thorough, overview of Marxist economics bannedthought.net/USA/RCP/Books/MaoistEconomics-ShanghaiTextbook-Lotta-OCR-sm.pdf