Insane how liberals are not even trying to deny but outright justify the funding of Nazis in Ukraine
"B b but most of the ppl we're funding aren't Nazis!!"
"But what about the Russians they're also reactionary!!"
oh yeah u live in Ottawa, what u think of the protests?
and yeah im not surprised indigenous people dont f*** with the vaccine mandate I think they have the lowest vaccination rate as well cant blame em with their history
Yeah not in ottawa atm but i was back home for the first weekend of the protest and i did a little people watching walk through around parliment on the monday after
Idk it was just kind of sad tbh these people seem to genuinely think that the vaccine will kill them like that day it was -30c outside and they were all f***ing freezing themselves on the street thinking they are gonna start some anti vax revolution
Spotted a lot of rcmp electronic surveillance vehicles out and about and there was overwatch (snipers) on most of the buildings which was abit unnerving to see wish i took out my sim card before entering the protest area in retrospect
Got a couple mean mugs for being masked up lol but im a big guy and i took a bunch of videos and no one said s*** to me
Saddest part was the amount of kids there for sure like there was families of people from like rural saskatchewan that were living out of there ford f150s in insanely cold weather mind you i only saw the first weekend and most of these people stayed for like 3 plus weeks which is truly wild
No idea what the class a***ysis of this looks like people outside the cities f***ing hate trudeau in canada and if it wasnt trudeaus govt putting all the vax mandates through i feel like most of these people wouldnt mind taking a shot? Who knows though
The whole thing is stupid imo im f***ing sick of hearing about covid like were 2 years into this s*** covid is probably here to stay if youre vaccinated good for you if youre not i doubt anything is gonna change ur mind lets just move on with our lives
Insane how liberals are not even trying to deny but outright justify the funding of Nazis in Ukraine
"B b but most of the ppl we're funding aren't Nazis!!"
"But what about the Russians they're also reactionary!!"
i remember my friend whos a metal head was telling me in ~2018 about the Azov Battalion and their ties to the metal scene how like every Nazi metalhead in Europe was getting tapped in at their festivals
they went from getting called nazis by msm and terrorists by US politicians, to getting weapons sent to them, came up big tbh
also throwback to the time I was tryna bag a Ukrainian girl and said "Fuck Russia" to up my chances (didn't work)
this article written by a Ukrainian is hilarious, the lib gymnastics to justify supporting Nazis is so classic
Feb 24 2020: Why Azov should not be designated a foreign terrorist organization
"To label that unit “a foreign terrorist organization under federal law” would be a grave mistake and a gift to the Kremlin" i.e. yea there is a powerful Nazi presence in Ukraine but don't say that bcuz it doesnt fit muh Ukraine good Russia bad
seeing the propaganda machine work in real time to paint Ukraine and f***ing NAZIS as the irrefutable "good guys" in the publics opinion is so insane
does anyone know what china's position has been on the russia/ukraine situation?
does anyone know what china's position has been on the russia/ukraine situation?
yes
does anyone know what china's position has been on the russia/ukraine situation?
Trying to both-sides it
Dont support Russia too much on it bc it would set a precedent for Taiwan (and mess up their money)
But also criticize the NATO expansion
does anyone know what china's position has been on the russia/ukraine situation?
they dont recognize crimea but are neutral mostly as usual
https://t.me/s/intelslava
russian bias news source
cw: bodies
i can't imagine not deserting in the face of war w russia as a ukrainian serviceman
like there is no way you're going to survive and all for what ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabia
collapse of the ussr depresses me every day
Basel Manifesto of 1912 from the 2nd international prior to wwi seems relevant
marxists.org/history/international/social-democracy/social-democrat/1912/12/manifesto.htm
"The International, at its Congresses at Stuttgart and Copenhagen, laid down the following principle for the war against war:—
In case of war being imminent, the working classes and their Parliamentary representatives in the countries concerned shall be bound, with the assistance of the International Socialist Bureau, to do all they can to prevent the breaking out of war, using for this purpose the means which appear to them the most efficacious, and which must naturally vary according to the acuteness of the struggle of classes, and to the general political conditions.
“In case war should break out notwithstanding, they shall be bound to intervene for its being brought to a speedy end, and to employ all their forces for utilising the economical and political crisis created by the war, in order to rouse the masses of the people and to hasten the downfall of the predominance of the capitalist class.”
Recent events have more than ever made it the duty of the proletariat to use all their energy in following out their organised action. On the one hand the mad rivalry in armaments has intensified the high prices of food, thereby increasing class distinctions and incensing the working classes. The workers want to limit this system of extravagance and consequent unrest. On the other hand the recurring threats of war are getting more and more critical. The nations of Europe are always on the point of being driven at each other without the slightest reason of real peoples’ interests for such attempts on reason and humanity.
The Balkan crisis, which is already responsible for such terrible horrors, would mean the most fearful danger for civilisation and the workers if allowed to spread. It would at the same time be the most shameful deed in the world’s history on account of the crying disproportion between the vastness, of the catastrophe and the slight importance of the interests involved.
Therefore the Congress notes with satisfaction the complete unanimity of the Socialist Parties and the trade unions of all lands in the war against war. As the workers of all lands arose simultaneously against Imperialism, each section of the International, however, opposing to its own Government the resistance of the proletariat and mobilising the public opinion of its own nation against all war-like lusts, a grand co-operation between the workers of all nations resulted, which has already contributed very much towards securing the world’s peace. The fear on the part of the ruling classes of a proletarian revolution following in the wake of a world-wide war has shown itself a considerable guarantee of peace."
"But the most important task of the International falls on the working class of Germany, France, and Great Britain to demand from their Governments an undertaking to refuse all support to either Austria or Russia, and to abstain from all intervention in the Balkan troubles, and in every respect to observe a strict neutrality. A war between the three great nations over an outlet to the sea, concerning which Austria and Servia are in dispute, would be criminal madness. The workers of Germany and France do not recognise that any secret treaties necessitate the duty of interference in the Balkan conflict."
"The Congress takes note of the fact that the whole International is unanimous in its principles regarding foreign policy. It urges the workers of all lands to oppose to capitalist Imperialism the international solidarity of the proletariat. It warns the ruling classes of all States against intensifying by warlike expeditions the widespread misery caused by the capitalist method of production, and emphatically demands peace. Let the Governments not forget that in the present condition of Europe and the state of mind of the working class they cannot let loose a war without danger to themselves. It must be remembered that the Franco-German War resulted in the revolutionary movement of the Commune, that the Russo-Japanese War put into motion the revolutionary movement in Russia, that the competition in naval and military armaments has in England and on the Continent increased class conflicts and caused enormous strikes. It would be madness if the Governments did not comprehend that the mere notion of a world-wide war will call forth strong indignation and protest among the workers. The latter consider it a crime to shoot each other down in the interest and for the profit of capitalism, and for the sake of dynastic ambition and of diplomatic secret treaties.
If the Governments interrupt the possibility of the normal development of the people, and thereby provoke desperate steps, they will have to take the whole responsibility for the crisis thus brought about.
The International will redouble its efforts to prevent this crisis; it will protest with an ever greater emphasis, and organise its propaganda more and more widely and energetically. Therefore, the Congress instructs the International Bureau to follow up the events with all the more attention, and, come what may, to preserve and strengthen the communication between the proletarian parties.
The proletariat is conscious of being at this moment the bearer of the whole future of humanity.
In order to prevent the destruction of the flower of all peoples, which is threatened by all the horrors of wholesale slaughter, famine and pestilence, the proletariat will put forth its whole energy.
So the Congress turns to you, proletarians and Socialists of all lands, that in this decisive hour you should let your voice be heard! Make known your will in every way, and everywhere; lift your protest with full force in the Parliaments; gather together in masses for great demonstrations; make the utmost use of every means which the organisations and the strength of the proletariat place in your hands. Take care that the Governments should always have before their eyes, alert and impassioned, the will of the proletariat for peace! Oppose thus to the capitalistic world of exploitation and wholesale slaughter the proletarian world of peace and the brotherhood of the peoples!"
Basel Manifesto of 1912 from the 2nd international prior to wwi seems relevant
https://www.marxists.org/history/international/social-democracy/social-democrat/1912/12/manifesto.htm
"The International, at its Congresses at Stuttgart and Copenhagen, laid down the following principle for the war against war:—
In case of war being imminent, the working classes and their Parliamentary representatives in the countries concerned shall be bound, with the assistance of the International Socialist Bureau, to do all they can to prevent the breaking out of war, using for this purpose the means which appear to them the most efficacious, and which must naturally vary according to the acuteness of the struggle of classes, and to the general political conditions.
“In case war should break out notwithstanding, they shall be bound to intervene for its being brought to a speedy end, and to employ all their forces for utilising the economical and political crisis created by the war, in order to rouse the masses of the people and to hasten the downfall of the predominance of the capitalist class.”
Recent events have more than ever made it the duty of the proletariat to use all their energy in following out their organised action. On the one hand the mad rivalry in armaments has intensified the high prices of food, thereby increasing class distinctions and incensing the working classes. The workers want to limit this system of extravagance and consequent unrest. On the other hand the recurring threats of war are getting more and more critical. The nations of Europe are always on the point of being driven at each other without the slightest reason of real peoples’ interests for such attempts on reason and humanity.
The Balkan crisis, which is already responsible for such terrible horrors, would mean the most fearful danger for civilisation and the workers if allowed to spread. It would at the same time be the most shameful deed in the world’s history on account of the crying disproportion between the vastness, of the catastrophe and the slight importance of the interests involved.
Therefore the Congress notes with satisfaction the complete unanimity of the Socialist Parties and the trade unions of all lands in the war against war. As the workers of all lands arose simultaneously against Imperialism, each section of the International, however, opposing to its own Government the resistance of the proletariat and mobilising the public opinion of its own nation against all war-like lusts, a grand co-operation between the workers of all nations resulted, which has already contributed very much towards securing the world’s peace. The fear on the part of the ruling classes of a proletarian revolution following in the wake of a world-wide war has shown itself a considerable guarantee of peace."
"But the most important task of the International falls on the working class of Germany, France, and Great Britain to demand from their Governments an undertaking to refuse all support to either Austria or Russia, and to abstain from all intervention in the Balkan troubles, and in every respect to observe a strict neutrality. A war between the three great nations over an outlet to the sea, concerning which Austria and Servia are in dispute, would be criminal madness. The workers of Germany and France do not recognise that any secret treaties necessitate the duty of interference in the Balkan conflict."
"The Congress takes note of the fact that the whole International is unanimous in its principles regarding foreign policy. It urges the workers of all lands to oppose to capitalist Imperialism the international solidarity of the proletariat. It warns the ruling classes of all States against intensifying by warlike expeditions the widespread misery caused by the capitalist method of production, and emphatically demands peace. Let the Governments not forget that in the present condition of Europe and the state of mind of the working class they cannot let loose a war without danger to themselves. It must be remembered that the Franco-German War resulted in the revolutionary movement of the Commune, that the Russo-Japanese War put into motion the revolutionary movement in Russia, that the competition in naval and military armaments has in England and on the Continent increased class conflicts and caused enormous strikes. It would be madness if the Governments did not comprehend that the mere notion of a world-wide war will call forth strong indignation and protest among the workers. The latter consider it a crime to shoot each other down in the interest and for the profit of capitalism, and for the sake of dynastic ambition and of diplomatic secret treaties.
If the Governments interrupt the possibility of the normal development of the people, and thereby provoke desperate steps, they will have to take the whole responsibility for the crisis thus brought about.
The International will redouble its efforts to prevent this crisis; it will protest with an ever greater emphasis, and organise its propaganda more and more widely and energetically. Therefore, the Congress instructs the International Bureau to follow up the events with all the more attention, and, come what may, to preserve and strengthen the communication between the proletarian parties.
The proletariat is conscious of being at this moment the bearer of the whole future of humanity.
In order to prevent the destruction of the flower of all peoples, which is threatened by all the horrors of wholesale slaughter, famine and pestilence, the proletariat will put forth its whole energy.
So the Congress turns to you, proletarians and Socialists of all lands, that in this decisive hour you should let your voice be heard! Make known your will in every way, and everywhere; lift your protest with full force in the Parliaments; gather together in masses for great demonstrations; make the utmost use of every means which the organisations and the strength of the proletariat place in your hands. Take care that the Governments should always have before their eyes, alert and impassioned, the will of the proletariat for peace! Oppose thus to the capitalistic world of exploitation and wholesale slaughter the proletarian world of peace and the brotherhood of the peoples!"
The proletariat is conscious of being at this moment the bearer of the whole future of humanity.
In order to prevent the destruction of the flower of all peoples, which is threatened by all the horrors of wholesale slaughter, famine and pestilence, the proletariat will put forth its whole energy.
while quips from weihua and this person can be funny and backhanded toward the (usually deserving) US, they really aren't helping the case of promoting China's neutrality following what the government themselves was supposed to be a more or less neutral position. Even if I was a chinese nationalist the last thing I would want to do right now is further stroke international tensions through public figures and outlets online.
Truly depressing. We really may never move past war as a species.
crazy how the US has been in Somalia since 2007 and no one ever talks about this. I don't really know much if anything about al-Shabaab though so it's harder to put in perspective vs say, US invasions of Iraq/Afghanistan.
All lives matter
Damn. @Fargo got permad