@sniper (i think it was you) thanks for recommending (a while back) mistaken identity by asad haider, really nice book
"During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."
"During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."
"During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."
Thought of this exact excerpt from State and Revolution when I saw this tweet
"During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."
@sniper (i think it was you) thanks for recommending (a while back) mistaken identity by asad haider, really nice book
I think I'm gonna re-read it sometime, I really enjoyed it and it helped me find the nuances in such a charged discourse, and it kinda verbalized what I was feeling for a while, without turning to the sloppiness of more reactionary thought.
It's actually just a version of this:
Is there a difference from reinforcing Capitalism and thriving under Capitalism?
Is there a difference from reinforcing Capitalism and thriving under Capitalism?
think you're going to have to expand a bit more on this one chief
think you're going to have to expand a bit more on this one chief
To preface this, I’m toasted rn but:
Would you say
Advertisers, Pharma execs, and the rest of the wealthy corporate bourgeois are completely different than successful ethical farmers, workers and entertainers who earn a significant amount of wealth?
To preface this, I’m toasted rn but:
Would you say
Advertisers, Pharma execs, and the rest of the wealthy corporate bourgeois are completely different than successful ethical farmers, workers and entertainers who earn a significant amount of wealth?
I guess you can say more ethical for sure, with cooperatives being the most ethical.
But by definition there really is no way to participate in the economy without reinforcing the system that the economy works under. (I was gonna say besides strikes but even that is actually a refusal of participating in the economy.)
The only thing that can really make a difference is political action.
I guess you can say more ethical for sure, with cooperatives being the most ethical.
But by definition there really is no way to participate in the economy without reinforcing the system that the economy works under. (I was gonna say besides strikes but even that is actually a refusal of participating in the economy.)
The only thing that can really make a difference is political action.

rip mark fisher you would have loved dissecting the meaning of capitalism in Avengers End Game and the Marvel Multiverse 🙏
Liberals in real life really think that if you aren't on-board the Democrat train, that automatically places you into being MAGA.
Their political outlook is based off treating the Presidential elections like the World Cup
Marxism Leninism liberated entire countries from the chains of imperialism. Not Mutualism, not Localism, Not Libertarian Socialism. Marxism Leninism. Even with all of the mistakes, it's a real, actionable ideology. Those other ideologies are just navel gazing bullshit. Idealism.
Marxism Leninism liberated entire countries from the chains of imperialism. Not Mutualism, not Localism, Not Libertarian Socialism. Marxism Leninism. Even with all of the mistakes, it's a real, actionable ideology. Those other ideologies are just navel gazing bullshit. Idealism.
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Marxism Leninism liberated entire countries from the chains of imperialism. Not Mutualism, not Localism, Not Libertarian Socialism. Marxism Leninism. Even with all of the mistakes, it's a real, actionable ideology. Those other ideologies are just navel gazing bullshit. Idealism.
All the other stuff is suburban nerd s***
my sociology prof said one of the worst interpretations of marx i’ve ever heard
said marx had nothing to do with communism
marx was about “checks and balances”
couldn’t differentiate between “communistic countries” (state capitalism) and communism itself
the guy also did an entire tangent on social darwinism and how it’s ok because people that can change and adapt (can get out of poverty) deserve it while the others will stay and die without discussing any surrounding conditional factors, and dismissed critiques of meritocracy as of being luck-based as just “lol guess you didn’t go over the obstacles enough”
just basic neoliberal “meritocracy” s***
the weird part is that the guy was cognizant of social statics and social dynamics and actually did a good explanation of the factors that cause revolution in society
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Can't believe he forgot abt the anarcho-syndicalists liberating Angola
my sociology prof said one of the worst interpretations of marx i’ve ever heard
said marx had nothing to do with communism
marx was about “checks and balances”
couldn’t differentiate between “communistic countries” (state capitalism) and communism itself
the guy also did an entire tangent on social darwinism and how it’s ok because people that can change and adapt (can get out of poverty) deserve it while the others will stay and die without discussing any surrounding conditional factors, and dismissed critiques of meritocracy as of being luck-based as just “lol guess you didn’t go over the obstacles enough”
just basic neoliberal “meritocracy” s***
the weird part is that the guy was cognizant of social statics and social dynamics and actually did a good explanation of the factors that cause revolution in society
Libs that deep down know capitalism is an exploitative system love claiming Marx as one of their own