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  • Jan 17, 2022
    Womanpuncher69


    Just boomer postin’

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    @sniper (i think it was you) thanks for recommending (a while back) mistaken identity by asad haider, really nice book

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    "During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."

  • Jan 17, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba
    https://twitter.com/fbi/status/1483076938403139588

    "During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."

  • Jan 17, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba
    https://twitter.com/fbi/status/1483076938403139588

    "During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."

    Thought of this exact excerpt from State and Revolution when I saw this tweet

  • Jan 17, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba
    https://twitter.com/fbi/status/1483076938403139588

    "During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it."

  • Jan 18, 2022
    space0cadet

    @sniper (i think it was you) thanks for recommending (a while back) mistaken identity by asad haider, really nice book

    I think I'm gonna re-read it sometime, I really enjoyed it and it helped me find the nuances in such a charged discourse, and it kinda verbalized what I was feeling for a while, without turning to the sloppiness of more reactionary thought.

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  • Jan 18, 2022
    space0cadet
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49bgnaY2nd8

    It's actually just a version of this:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_Monkey

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    Is there a difference from reinforcing Capitalism and thriving under Capitalism?

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    VA7a

    Is there a difference from reinforcing Capitalism and thriving under Capitalism?

    think you're going to have to expand a bit more on this one chief

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    space0cadet

    think you're going to have to expand a bit more on this one chief

    To preface this, I’m toasted rn but:
    Would you say
    Advertisers, Pharma execs, and the rest of the wealthy corporate bourgeois are completely different than successful ethical farmers, workers and entertainers who earn a significant amount of wealth?

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    VA7a

    To preface this, I’m toasted rn but:
    Would you say
    Advertisers, Pharma execs, and the rest of the wealthy corporate bourgeois are completely different than successful ethical farmers, workers and entertainers who earn a significant amount of wealth?

    I guess you can say more ethical for sure, with cooperatives being the most ethical.

    But by definition there really is no way to participate in the economy without reinforcing the system that the economy works under. (I was gonna say besides strikes but even that is actually a refusal of participating in the economy.)

    The only thing that can really make a difference is political action.

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    Scratchin Mamba

    I guess you can say more ethical for sure, with cooperatives being the most ethical.

    But by definition there really is no way to participate in the economy without reinforcing the system that the economy works under. (I was gonna say besides strikes but even that is actually a refusal of participating in the economy.)

    The only thing that can really make a difference is political action.

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    krishna bound

  • Jan 18, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    rip mark fisher you would have loved dissecting the meaning of capitalism in Avengers End Game and the Marvel Multiverse 🙏

  • Jan 18, 2022

    Liberals in real life really think that if you aren't on-board the Democrat train, that automatically places you into being MAGA.

    Their political outlook is based off treating the Presidential elections like the World Cup

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    Marxism Leninism liberated entire countries from the chains of imperialism. Not Mutualism, not Localism, Not Libertarian Socialism. Marxism Leninism. Even with all of the mistakes, it's a real, actionable ideology. Those other ideologies are just navel gazing bullshit. Idealism.

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    ima drop my community college sociology class this s*** sucks

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    space0cadet

    Marxism Leninism liberated entire countries from the chains of imperialism. Not Mutualism, not Localism, Not Libertarian Socialism. Marxism Leninism. Even with all of the mistakes, it's a real, actionable ideology. Those other ideologies are just navel gazing bullshit. Idealism.

    New copypasta

  • Jan 18, 2022
    space0cadet

    Marxism Leninism liberated entire countries from the chains of imperialism. Not Mutualism, not Localism, Not Libertarian Socialism. Marxism Leninism. Even with all of the mistakes, it's a real, actionable ideology. Those other ideologies are just navel gazing bullshit. Idealism.

    All the other stuff is suburban nerd s***

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    my sociology prof said one of the worst interpretations of marx i’ve ever heard

    said marx had nothing to do with communism

    marx was about “checks and balances”

    couldn’t differentiate between “communistic countries” (state capitalism) and communism itself

    the guy also did an entire tangent on social darwinism and how it’s ok because people that can change and adapt (can get out of poverty) deserve it while the others will stay and die without discussing any surrounding conditional factors, and dismissed critiques of meritocracy as of being luck-based as just “lol guess you didn’t go over the obstacles enough”

    just basic neoliberal “meritocracy” s***

    the weird part is that the guy was cognizant of social statics and social dynamics and actually did a good explanation of the factors that cause revolution in society

  • Jan 18, 2022
    Yuzzy

    New copypasta

    Can't believe he forgot abt the anarcho-syndicalists liberating Angola

  • Jan 18, 2022
    sniper
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    my sociology prof said one of the worst interpretations of marx i’ve ever heard

    said marx had nothing to do with communism

    marx was about “checks and balances”

    couldn’t differentiate between “communistic countries” (state capitalism) and communism itself

    the guy also did an entire tangent on social darwinism and how it’s ok because people that can change and adapt (can get out of poverty) deserve it while the others will stay and die without discussing any surrounding conditional factors, and dismissed critiques of meritocracy as of being luck-based as just “lol guess you didn’t go over the obstacles enough”

    just basic neoliberal “meritocracy” s***

    the weird part is that the guy was cognizant of social statics and social dynamics and actually did a good explanation of the factors that cause revolution in society

    Libs that deep down know capitalism is an exploitative system love claiming Marx as one of their own