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looks like Kazakhstan is undergoing a color revolution similar to what happened to the Ukraine, having been funded by over $1M by the NED over the past year. Members of the Ukraine color revolution are already claiming to have helped organize the kazakhstan revolution.
also seeing from multiple sources what is essentially the new fed playbook - that also incidentally lines up to similar domestic tactics the feds were employing during the blm protests - which is a hybrid offensive.
Meaning on the one hand, the cia funds ngos that promote regime change and whatever narrative through official media channels, while simultaneously using "armed provocateurs who use the protests as cover to stage kinetic attacks".
according to Russian newspapers amongst protestors were "men in cheap clothes, who speak little and poorly but acting in a well-coordinated and aggressive manner. They were the ones who first provoked clashes with unarmed police, then storming administrative buildings and then - having broken up into tactical squads of 5-6 people and coordinating with elders/leaders in red clothes - conducting pogroms and urban warfare."
these totally not feds are organizing attacks on local government buildings attempting to coup the local governments.
from a friend of a friend in the military it seems like the US is gearing up for some type of interference in either the Ukraine or Taiwan so i would anticipate more news to be hitting the mainstream discourse over the year to manufacture consent.
I threw in my lot with PCUSA back in October but I’m not f***ing w the party, they don’t recognize China as AES and use a LOT of American imagery
What do I do?
CPUSA but they’re a joke and are beefing with some dumbfuck youtuber rn lol and what do u mean by a lot of american imagery it’s an american communist party what do i expect unless they using imagery of people like bush or biden
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looks like Kazakhstan is undergoing a color revolution similar to what happened to the Ukraine, having been funded by over $1M by the NED over the past year. Members of the Ukraine color revolution are already claiming to have helped organize the kazakhstan revolution.
also seeing from multiple sources what is essentially the new fed playbook - that also incidentally lines up to similar domestic tactics the feds were employing during the blm protests - which is a hybrid offensive.
Meaning on the one hand, the cia funds ngos that promote regime change and whatever narrative through official media channels, while simultaneously using "armed provocateurs who use the protests as cover to stage kinetic attacks".
according to Russian newspapers amongst protestors were "men in cheap clothes, who speak little and poorly but acting in a well-coordinated and aggressive manner. They were the ones who first provoked clashes with unarmed police, then storming administrative buildings and then - having broken up into tactical squads of 5-6 people and coordinating with elders/leaders in red clothes - conducting pogroms and urban warfare."
these totally not feds are organizing attacks on local government buildings attempting to coup the local governments.
from a friend of a friend in the military it seems like the US is gearing up for some type of interference in either the Ukraine or Taiwan so i would anticipate more news to be hitting the mainstream discourse over the year to manufacture consent.
My questions are
Why is this not a major news story in the States like the recent Cuban and Taiwan ones were?
Do Kazakhs not have legitimate grievances? Theyve had oligarchs siphoning the countries money in order to live lavishly abroad while the people suffer, a revolution seems justified.
What would be the reason? The thread mentions this preventing Russian action in Ukraine but this is Russia, they have enough military power to act in both locations, and if they dont, this is only a delay. Russia will ensure Kazakhstan stays its satellite for industry, and then return to annexing Ukraine. Im just unsure of the endgame, Russia is too strong to let Kazakhstan out of its influence( not to mention Chinese interests) so this wont really matter in the end? Aside from all of the dead people.
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looks like Kazakhstan is undergoing a color revolution similar to what happened to the Ukraine, having been funded by over $1M by the NED over the past year. Members of the Ukraine color revolution are already claiming to have helped organize the kazakhstan revolution.
also seeing from multiple sources what is essentially the new fed playbook - that also incidentally lines up to similar domestic tactics the feds were employing during the blm protests - which is a hybrid offensive.
Meaning on the one hand, the cia funds ngos that promote regime change and whatever narrative through official media channels, while simultaneously using "armed provocateurs who use the protests as cover to stage kinetic attacks".
according to Russian newspapers amongst protestors were "men in cheap clothes, who speak little and poorly but acting in a well-coordinated and aggressive manner. They were the ones who first provoked clashes with unarmed police, then storming administrative buildings and then - having broken up into tactical squads of 5-6 people and coordinating with elders/leaders in red clothes - conducting pogroms and urban warfare."
these totally not feds are organizing attacks on local government buildings attempting to coup the local governments.
from a friend of a friend in the military it seems like the US is gearing up for some type of interference in either the Ukraine or Taiwan so i would anticipate more news to be hitting the mainstream discourse over the year to manufacture consent.
I dont really buy it, other than the ethnic points. Its basically the Russian bourgeois want to protect their bourgeois interest in Kazakhstan, neither countries are DOTP, Kazakhstan is a comprador state for Russia as seen from the uranium mining, and also for the USA getting a ton of oil from them as well.
The NED spending 1 million dollars isn't a whole lot (after reading his critic thread ill take back this point) , and of course they are colour revolution orgs trying to hijack the protest for their demands as their are communist orgs trying the same, which the protest had support from various communist parties like the KKE and the only one to denounce the protest was a local chapter of the CPUSA (lol).
As well I heard contradictory info from other colour orgs claiming they want support from the west but arent getting any (of course that doesnt mean that the west arent supporting other colour orgs like the NED).
Also the US isn't afraid to use its vast media network to get support for colour revolutions we seen it with Cuba, Bolivia, Ukraine, Venezuela. Why arent they doing the same here?
I think it a protest that can lead to benefiting the west but that doesnt necessary mean its a colour revolution, it can as well harm USA as well with their oil relations as the president announced on twitter hes still very open to foreign investment lol, it seems to be a protest thats very unstable and unpredictable so both parties (Russia and USA) rather keep the status quo.
Also whats the vulgar campism I see from marxist, if a socialist revolution was occurring the CTSO would be sent even quicker to shut it down, Russia is only anti "US" imperialist, after all they have their own imperialist ambitions of their own. You cant have a proper anti imperialist argument without taking in account a class a***ysis, most so called marxist only consider the geopolitical side what are working class people in these countries supposed to do wait for NATO countries to start their revolution so NATO cant potentially hijack their movements how is that any different from the trots who think u can only have a revolution in industrialised countries.
wait the twitter thread Kai shared is from a paleoconservatice think tank member (Claremont institute)
who had two thousand followers a few days and now at 15000
I threw in my lot with PCUSA back in October but I’m not f***ing w the party, they don’t recognize China as AES and use a LOT of American imagery
What do I do?
What does AES mean?
wait the twitter thread Kai shared is from a paleoconservatice think tank member (Claremont institute)
who had two thousand followers a few days and now at 15000
claremont inst alumni glow in the dark
Actually Existing Socialism
Thank you so much
Can you expand a bit on what this means and places where the term is apporiate
wait the twitter thread Kai shared is from a paleoconservatice think tank member (Claremont institute)
who had two thousand followers a few days and now at 15000
Thank you so much
Can you expand a bit on what this means and places where the term is apporiate
depends on the tendencies some claim that AES never existed and the countries claimed to be socialist weren’t socialist
others would say all countries that have a communist party leading are AES.
other would argue some are some aren’t for various of reasons or used to be AES but no longer is.
Counties like China, North Korea, Vietnam and Cuba. Countries which establish a DOTP (dictatorship of the prolateriant) through revolution are the main examples of AES
is any of this tweet true? @spacecadet
my plan for this year is to run through every american socialist org i can find and figure out which is what and what needs to be done.
i do some mutual aid stuff independently but wo a proper org for my aid to support, it's harder to justify the time spent when im already pressed for time just working to get by
real
CPUSA but they’re a joke and are beefing with some dumbfuck youtuber rn lol and what do u mean by a lot of american imagery it’s an american communist party what do i expect unless they using imagery of people like bush or biden
It’s more like colonialist imagery. Washington etc
I threw in my lot with PCUSA back in October but I’m not f***ing w the party, they don’t recognize China as AES and use a LOT of American imagery
What do I do?
I mean, what exactly do you want out of a party or organization? The vast majority are glorified reading clubs.
I can understand your first point as an ideological difference, but I don't get the second. What do you mean by American imagery, and what is wrong with that?
I mean, what exactly do you want out of a party or organization? The vast majority are glorified reading clubs.
I can understand your first point as an ideological difference, but I don't get the second. What do you mean by American imagery, and what is wrong with that?
Being a communist and using American imagery is contradictory
It’s more like colonialist imagery. Washington etc
Ah, I just saw this. I mean, maybe the IWW? Though it heavily depends on your branch. They're very labor-facing and have done quite a bit of work in my area in terms of unionization.
Being a communist and using American imagery is contradictory
I mean, it depends, right? I don't think necessarily all American imagery is inherently imperialistic or anti-socialist. Lady Liberty, for example, is a good symbol. The American bison, for example, is a good symbol. The 13 stripes is not a good symbol.
I highly doubt that KZ is a color revolution at this point, although I was suspicious at first. Where are the #SOSKazakhstan tweets? Where are the
TW: VIOLENCE
Hey sweeties, here's what you need to know about KAZAKHSTAN (1/n)
tweets?
The USA condemned the violence, the US media isn't pushing it, the exiled oligarchs are complaining that they weren't involved in the protests, the Council of Foreign Affairs said it is a worrisome development, various US politicians are concerned about property damages and market fluctuations...I don't buy it.
is any of this tweet true? @spacecadet
https://twitter.com/ovargas52/status/1466537932379107336
It’s more like colonialist imagery. Washington etc
hmm the question of Washington is interesting for communist movements is interesting, I cant really say much cause im not American but I guess a similar question would be how do the French Communist see Robespierre @Nessy ?
Though Washington would have extra prestige compared to Robespierre due to being the founder of the country, and the extra baggage of slavery and Native American genocide which shouldn't be downplayed.
hmm the question of Washington is interesting for communist movements is interesting, I cant really say much cause im not American but I guess a similar question would be how do the French Communist see Robespierre @Nessy ?
Though Washington would have extra prestige compared to Robespierre due to being the founder of the country, and the extra baggage of slavery and Native American genocide which shouldn't be downplayed.
wasnt just washington, it included founding fathers as a whole
wasnt just washington, it included founding fathers as a whole
I dont much about the founding fathers but I dont find it surprising for a movement to use figures like them to add legitimacy to them especially with the mythology added to them compared to Canada we dont have anything like that.
Im not sure the CPUSA stand on them are but im pretty sure they are pro china if u are interested in them but its the CPUSA lol, I briefly mentioned a post earlier about them denouncing Kazakhstan protestors it was a local chapter who denounced them publicly before the main org even had a statement on them which is a complete violation of the centralism part of democratic centralism, and they have beef with a small "ML" YouTuber named Haz rn, who sending his fans to join and they view the founding fathers favourably. The CPUSA are a joke man lol.
The only orgs I can think of are Maoist orgs that view the founding father unfavourably but then comes again the question of China, which Maoist are not a fan of post Mao China.
Have u tried seeing what users in r/genzedong organise with seems like most of ur lines are the same as them, maybe that'll help you find an org.