He said a lot of stuff a Marxist would say last time I watched him, IMO that is valuable. We need kiddies too on our side and every prominent voice helps. He was talking about social democracy only being possible because the communists in the Eastern Bloc pressured Western capitalists to do concessions and that aiming for social democracy in this day and age won't work. When was the last time you heard a mainstream streamer say shyt like this

Their ideology is basically "GDP line go up". I spent a lot of time talking to Chinese people IRL and online, all from China itself so not diaspora, reading Chinese stuff, never been to China though before. They have mandatory socialism classes in university lol

For them socialism is just a buzzword meaning "national growth". This is also kind of what happened in the late Brezhnev era. This is very dangerous because sooner or later growth might slow down, so people will think "gee socialism doesn't work" because all they associated with socialism was line go up. You need to remind people of the class struggle and anti-imperialism and internationalism to keep them through a few troublesome times. The USA didn't collapse in 2008 because capitalists could embed the idea in the mind of the people that crises are a natural thing in capitalism, whereas for the USSR one major (protracted) crisis besides the wars was all they needed to collapse.

Basically Chinese ideology is state-led developmentalism, mixed with some revivalist thought and revanchist thought draped in anti-imperialist speak ("We shall avenge the century of humiliation!!")

The USA and China are more similar than both sides would like to admit. I have heard Chinese people say free universities and free healthcare are not possible in China because their population is too big. Where did I hear that before...?

Too many people per capita

This is basically the type of thing im referring to but on a political level theres writing from Huning (and likely others but Hunings the only one i can find the most translated stuff from besides Xi himself, albeit there are a few others linkedbelow), which like idealizes pre-80s america and trashes Mao's China and basically discusses how the ideal path of the future for China should be like becoming a super liberal capitalist democracy with courts and regional governments based on the American system and work towards promoting individualism and stuff

this has been the best site ive found for tracking this stuff readingthechinadream.com

You have to realize that a lot of the people who came up in the 1990s and 2000s were absolute USA, neoliberalism and democracy cocksuckers whereas the new generation of kids and teenagers and young adults coming up now are far more nationalist and far more wary of "democracy". It was only in the past 10 years or so where more and more Chinese people advocated for following a path separate from the West. The new generation of intellectuals are often fiercely against the USA while the middle-aged and older ones still simp for the USA and Western democracy on the down-low. I even heard old guys in China complaining that the youth was too anti-west.

Why you might ask? Well - might makes right. If you look at communist parties in Europe, you will notice they either have boomers or zoomers in their rank. Why no Gen X and early millennials? Because they grew up either when the USSR was collapsing or when it recently collapsed! Whereas boomers still experienced some of the peak USSR and zoomers are too far removed from the 90s collapse.

Similarly in France, the biggest time for communism was the 1950s, because the USSR was still popular from having liberated Europe (people at that time recognized this whereas now because of US propaganda people think it was the USA who liberated Europe), because they sent the first human into space and because they posed a real alternative to capitalism. Only when the USSR slowed down in the late 1970s did the popularity of communism break. It's not a coincidence. Most people follow power.

Now in China, these are people who grew up in the 80s and 90s (the guy you named studied in the USA in the late 80s). They still have the Reagan and Bush era power of the USA in mind. The younger people grew up with Obama and Trump and Biden, with a US that is less powerful.

What hollywood does to a mfer

Agree that they're insufferable, she plays to her strengths well though in this

if they just stuck to talking about art I think they'd be fine. as art/film/music critics they're entertaining and sometimes have unique thoughts. it's just that they're politically lost

I remember michael brooks summing up their steve bannon schtick as just “boring” and thats the best way to dismiss the calculated half-grift thing that they’ve come to defined their brand by

Rip Michael Brooks

they got ether'd by Freddie deBoer tbh and i say that as someone who isnt a big fan of his

"Yao’s defense of markets and entrepreneurs, of Adam Smith and Jack Ma, strikes me as consistent with the “center-right” tone of much of Chinese establishment intellectual discourse these days. The invisible hand works, Yao insists, and markets are absolutely necessary to allocate resources and fix prices. Some entrepreneurs—in China and elsewhere—make vast sums of money, but popular anger at these one-percenters is grounded in popular ignorance—most of us don’t see the entrepreneurs that failed, and thus do not understand how the game is played and what the stakes are. Of course some adjustments might be in order—maybe even property taxes—but Yao’s heartfelt plea is to let markets and entrepreneurs work their magic for the good of society as a whole."

“These days the word ‘exploitation’ often pops up on the Internet, which I think is dangerous. Factor-based distribution actually has an element of labor-based distribution included within it. Is capital the fruit of labor? Of course it is. You may have to go back a few generations to figure out where your house came from. It may be the labor of your grandfather’s grandfather that built the house you now rent out, and while it may seem like you am getting something for nothing and are simply profiting from capital, you did after all inherit something. Especially for Chinese people, inheritance is very important. I don't think we can pass an inheritance tax in China because the whole country would be against it. The way the Chinese see it, the son and the father are part of the same family, it is natural for a father to buy a house for the son, and it is unreasonable to impose an inheritance tax on the son now. Let's not be fooled by what they do in the West.”

• Chinese Marxism expert

readingthechinadream.com/yao-yang-on-common-prosperity.html

Lmao

^If you guys actually took time to read real life Dengists in action you would notice how insane this ideology really is. It is like trickle-down Reaganomics with red paint. Truly batshit crazy.

this dude be like "yeah Marx said some stuff about Adam Smith guess that means we should base our economy on the wealth of nations actually"

He says:

"Returning to the present day, the primary distribution we are proposing should be a factor-based distribution, which is different from the labor-based distribution we used when our model was that of the planned economy. Factor-based distribution means that no matter if you are labor or capital, as long as you input something and make a contribution, then you should be rewarded."

The common retort is: But where does the capital come from? From inheritance and so on...

Then he copes with Confucianism (seriously):

"Factor-based distribution actually has an element of labor-based distribution included within it. Is capital the fruit of labor? Of course it is. You may have to go back a few generations to figure out where your house came from. It may be the labor of your grandfather’s grandfather that built the house you now rent out, and while it may seem like you am getting something for nothing and are simply profiting from capital, you did after all inherit something. Especially for Chinese people, inheritance is very important. I don't think we can pass an inheritance tax in China because the whole country would be against it. The way the Chinese see it, the son and the father are part of the same family, it is natural for a father to buy a house for the son, and it is unreasonable to impose an inheritance tax on the son now. Let's not be fooled by what they do in the West.”

Lmaoooooooo

What is common prosperity? Surely not killing the rich to help the poor.

We need to "teach people how to fish" and to focus on the fishing tackle. The goal of common prosperity, and the means of achieving common prosperity, must be to improve the productive capacity of low-income people, rather than transferring the income of high-income people directly to them.

This is literally just Reaganomics

There’s a lot of silly talk on the Internet, to the effect that Chinese businessmen are heartless, and give to charity solely to preserve their reputation. Entrepreneurs are wealth creators, just like Zhang Weiying said, and those places with more entrepreneurs are more prosperous places.

my planet my home

I'd say say China was right about calling out USSR revisionism, even in ur later posts u recognise how dangerous it can be like when its conflated with line go up under Brezhnev and Post Mao China. How else should you deal with revisionism ? I know ur not a fan of the Maoist solutions what do u think would be the right way?

I do agree the foreign policy that China ran with after was stupid as f*** .

damn last time I ever payed attention to him, his goal was to "make" USA a social democracy then we can think about a DOTP or whatever like it was a linear line to socialism

What was the split over again

Chill on deng

khrushchev de stalinization