It was the state ideology that was used to justify those actions.

i mean u can call the democratic party racist just out of the blue cause it’s true

anyway

People in the 1950s no like gay people I am very smart

I'm replaying to @spacecadet saying the USSR did not treat their minorities badly like the United States.
Treatment of LGBT and minorities is a function of state power not economic organization

yeah i don’t really see the relevance as far as discrediting socialism because hate for LGBTQ+ people was worldwide and more connected to culture itself

So f***ing what? You want me to start naming all the atrocities committed by states abiding to capitalism, liberalism and Western democracy? You should learn how to separate a system and real-world politics of a SPECIFIC nation. The idea that ML as a whole is tainted would also mean that social democracy is tainted, neoliberalism is tainted, basically every ideology outside of internet s*** nobody ever tried would be tainted.

I just wanted an answer to my question.

So what should we try? Anarcho-primitivism?

Motherfuckers invent these meme ideologies and then say Look they never did anything wrong! That's bc it doesnt exist outside of the internet and never will. Mental masturbation s***

he doesn't realize that 20th century russia and 21st century america are not the same thing

They didnt treat them as badly in comparison.

so i mean u making no point now tbh

“criticize everything ever”

ok....

i’m not even tryna be on any negative vibes rn but that’s just what all this seems like

"Yes I support abolishing the carceral state of the USSR."

Ok the USSR hasn't been a thing for like 30 years

i it was just not good for them around the globe regardless. as human beings. still not safe plenty of countries. i would almost argue most countries probably still ain’t safe for lgbtq+ individuals unfortunately.

you have to argue in bad faith if you think ppl are out here trying to recreate 20th century USSR lol

I mean minorities in general

The USA still had segregation while the USSR was a federation of dozens of ethnicites. Equivocating that is goofy stuff. The few bad things were forced resettlements during WW2 internally and religious repression in the early years of the USSR. And the USSR wasn't just the Stalin years even though liberals want to make kt seem that way

i mean we have the flaws in it so we’re able to learn from history and see what people liked/what worked and what needs to be switched up. idk why people think s*** is so crazy to be socialist/communist

fair

I’m not an anarcho-primitivist

Remember when the soviets and even the chinese literally killed off all the autonomous anarchist societies during their time

The Beijing commune, the Korean People’s Association in Manchuria, Makhnovia in Ukraine, the Spanish anarchists in the civil war, etc.

The anarchists even helped the soviets come to fruition, but they got betrayed

I wonder why anarchism never had any society in modernity that survived longer than 2 or 3 years...

Maybe if they had a state they could have fought against the evil tankies with their professional army

Catalonia was a mistake (but not just the USSRs fault), but those other projects didnt deserve to exist and only threatened socialism and aided the capitalists during CIVIL WARS

how y’all gonna treat me when i come out as ANCAP-Primitivist-Libertarian-Dengist

sorry for the s\*\*\*post