you’re a little too reactionary for me. I’m asking other people now.
You cant even use the term correctly
"You support fidel castro in his struggle to bring socialism to the Cuban ppl in the mid 20th century on a tiny island nation under ruthless attack by the US at every turn, yet you want to abolish the carceral state in 21st century America. How could this be??? I am very smart."
Besides his land redistribution and other socially progressive initiatives, the workers didn’t own the means of production.
Fidel era falangista.
Besides his land redistribution and other socially progressive initiatives, the workers didn’t own the means of production.
Fidel era falangista.
How about this
Shut the f*** up, go find another thread
TFW when westerners throw around words they don’t know the meaning of
i know the meaning of the word. What makes the ussr socialist? I’m genuinely lost here.
This is a socialist thread, no?
Critique should be allowed.
this isn’t debate club
This is a socialist thread, no?
Critique should be allowed.
From socialists, in a non antagonistic manner. But guess what, this thread is also not a place to run through every little criticism of actual present day and historical socialist states because they dont fit your idealistic version of socialism. Go find another thread for that. Stop coming in here talking about the big authoritarian boogeyman
From socialists, in a non antagonistic manner. But guess what, this thread is also not a place to run through every little criticism of actual present day and historical socialist states because they dont fit your idealistic version of socialism. Go find another thread for that. Stop coming in here talking about the big authoritarian boogeyman
I am a socialist, I support the workers owning the means of production and getting to a classless, moneyless and stateless society in the future.
I am not promoting idealism, I just don’t like seeing leftists aspiring to repeat mistakes and not learning from the past. Transcend the worship of dead men.
I am a socialist, I support the workers owning the means of production and getting to a classless, moneyless and stateless society in the future.
I am not promoting idealism, I just don’t like seeing leftists aspiring to repeat mistakes and not learning from the past. Transcend the worship of dead men.
more of this
I am a socialist, I support the workers owning the means of production and getting to a classless, moneyless and stateless society in the future.
I am not promoting idealism, I just don’t like seeing leftists aspiring to repeat mistakes and not learning from the past. Transcend the worship of dead men.
No one is worshipping dead men lol. In fact the only reason they ever get brought up is because you and some other weirdos wanna come itt and get on the soapbox. So again kindly stfu
You cant even realise the contradictions of your own position. Guess what, if you want the workers to own the means of production and to one day have communism, it ain't gonna be without the power of the state. Until you realize that, its idealism
You cant even realise the contradictions of your own position. Guess what, if you want the workers to own the means of production and to one day have communism, it ain't gonna be without the power of the state. Until you realize that, its idealism
cringe
this is the main criticism of anarchists from marxists, but it’s kinda funny considering the USSR and even Cuba didn’t even make it out it’s state form
“Withering away the state” is out of the window when you get central power.
cringe
this is the main criticism of anarchists from marxists, but it’s kinda funny considering the USSR and even Cuba didn’t even make it out it’s state form
“Withering away the state” is out of the window when you get central power.
Word salad
Wow cuba only been under embargo and sanctions and attack since the minute of the revolution why dont they have my ideal socialism
Motherfucka Maoists don’t even have a country we support, we just got dudes in the jungle with ak47s
lmaooooo
Going to block you actually so no we wont talk later. Tired of the clown show
lmfao
Wow cuba only been under embargo and sanctions and attack since the minute of the revolution why dont they have my ideal socialism
PEAK IDEALISM LMAO
Wow cuba only been under embargo and sanctions and attack since the minute of the revolution why dont they have my ideal socialism
God, you guys really have to blame external forces for literally everything regarding your religion.
You’re a clown too, man
God, you guys really have to blame external forces for literally everything regarding your religion.
You’re a clown too, man
LITERALLY LOGICALLY THINK IT THROUFH HOW R THEY GONNA WITHER AWAY WHEN THE US IMPERIAL EMPIRE IS RIGHT THERE ??????
YOU HOLD IDEALIST VIEWPOINTS
LITERALLY LOGICALLY THINK IT THROUFH HOW R THEY GONNA WITHER AWAY WHEN THE US IMPERIAL EMPIRE IS RIGHT THERE ??????
YOU HOLD IDEALIST VIEWPOINTS
Do you think a proletarian state would be able to protect itself?
Do you think a proletarian state would be able to protect itself?
I don't have to think, it does , look at the USSR It literally destroyed the nazis
Look at Cuba and the bay of pigs
So many more examples
LITERALLY LOGICALLY THINK IT THROUFH HOW R THEY GONNA WITHER AWAY WHEN THE US IMPERIAL EMPIRE IS RIGHT THERE ??????
YOU HOLD IDEALIST VIEWPOINTS
A freer society can protect itself very well, like other nationstates.
The rojavans do it well and they have NATO Turkey breathing down their necks, the zapatistas have the narcos and the mexican government (honestly nearly one in the same entities) breathing down too, and they’ve been able to preserve themselves
I don't have to think, it does , look at the USSR It literally destroyed the nazis
Look at Cuba and the bay of pigs
So many more examples
Why would you consider the USSR to be a proletarian state?