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  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    Capitalist fan boys will say “only people with nothing to lose want socialism” then turn around and spend 6 days a week at job that refuses to pay more than 15 an hour while their owner collects the profit and invests almost none of it back into the business.

    Would there be salary caps in your ideal version of socialism? if not how would there be a classless society?

  • Apr 27, 2021
    CLB Fractions

    i understand that. but one person cant change the system. but starting a co op is one of the best ways imo

    co-ops are nice, but you have to fundamentally change the system to have a meaningful impact.

    You can have all the co-ops you want, but as long as we have a system that values executives and shareholders elusively and gives no consideration to workers, that capitalists will continue to shamelessly exploit the masses.

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    Would there be salary caps in your ideal version of socialism? if not how would there be a classless society?

    how many times do i have to explain to you what socialism is cia propoganda has rotted so many of you f***ers

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    Would there be salary caps in your ideal version of socialism? if not how would there be a classless society?

    It’s not about eliminating classes or putting salary caps on anybody (although the class system in the US is pretty f***ing disgusting) it’s about a rebalancing of the economy.

    When you raise the minimum wage and encourage workers to unionize in order to receive benefits and better work conditions. It forces ownership to invest more into its workforce rather than pocketing a higher percentage of the profits for themselves.

  • Apr 27, 2021
    americana

    how many times do i have to explain to you what socialism is cia propoganda has rotted so many of you f***ers

    its almost as if hes a troll

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    It’s not about eliminating classes or putting salary caps on anybody (although the class system in the US is pretty f***ing disgusting) it’s about a rebalancing of the economy.

    When you raise the minimum wage and encourage workers to unionize in order to receive benefits and better work conditions. It forces ownership to invest more into its workforce rather than pocketing a higher percentage of the profits for themselves.

    it is about eliminating classes

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    Cudderwalks

    Communism is a moneyless, stateless, & classless envisioning of society.

    Socialism is the stage before that when there still is a state

    so is this not true? @americana

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    it is about eliminating classes

    Yeah I guess.

    I can’t wait until day I can put my ANTIFA tactical gear on and march in unison with my brothers and sisters towards gated communities everywhere when the revolution hit.

  • Apr 27, 2021
    CurlyZ

    Yeah I guess.

    I can’t wait until day I can put my ANTIFA tactical gear on and march in unison with my brothers and sisters towards gated communities everywhere when the revolution hit.

    pls tell me ur trolling 💀💀

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    It’s not about eliminating classes or putting salary caps on anybody (although the class system in the US is pretty f***ing disgusting) it’s about a rebalancing of the economy.

    When you raise the minimum wage and encourage workers to unionize in order to receive benefits and better work conditions. It forces ownership to invest more into its workforce rather than pocketing a higher percentage of the profits for themselves.

    well it is about eliminating class

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    americana

    how many times do i have to explain to you what socialism is cia propoganda has rotted so many of you f***ers

    that is what it is. a stateless classless society where everyone has basic needs met.

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    Yeah I guess.

    I can’t wait until day I can put my ANTIFA tactical gear on and march in unison with my brothers and sisters towards gated communities everywhere when the revolution hit.

    it seems like youve still got some learning to do before then

  • Apr 27, 2021
    Mafia Boss

    that is what it is. a stateless classless society where everyone has basic needs met.

    communism is the stateless and classless society

    socialism is the dictatorship of the proletariat, which in a way it reverses the class organization of capitalism so that communism may be brought about

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    so is this not true? @americana

    This is a dumb take. By the true Marxist / Leninist definition of communism, no country has ever been a real communist society. Just putting the word “communist” in the name of a country does not make it magically communist

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    it seems like youve still got some learning to do before then

    Nah we good. We prepared to overthrow the capitalists pigs when time comes. Better ride the wave or drown when the socialist tsunami hits big dawg.

  • Apr 27, 2021
    CurlyZ
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    Nah we good. We prepared to overthrow the capitalists pigs when time comes. Better ride the wave or drown when the socialist tsunami hits big dawg.

    💀💀

  • Apr 27, 2021
    CurlyZ
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    Nah we good. We prepared to overthrow the capitalists pigs when time comes. Better ride the wave or drown when the socialist tsunami hits big dawg.

    Tell me you trolling bruh

  • Apr 27, 2021
    americana

    well it is about eliminating class

    why this mans say communism isn't about eliminating class

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    Mfs wanna have socialism but wanna let the capitalists keep rocking at the top. Not how this works big dawg. The country club gotta fall first before it turns into a community and nature center for the youth.

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    Mfs wanna have socialism but wanna let the capitalists keep rocking at the top. Not how this works big dawg. The country club gotta fall first before it turns into a community and nature center for the youth.

    why do you think there cant there be country clubs under socialism? i thought luxuries wouldn't go away?

  • Apr 27, 2021
    CLB Fractions

    why do you think there cant there be country clubs under socialism? i thought luxuries wouldn't go away?

    Of course country clubs can exist under socialism.

    When I say the country clubs must fall, I don’t literally mean burn every golf course to the ground. I mean as country when need to start prioritizing feeding hungry child instead insuring that every wealth person born into money has every luxury and extravagance at the snap of their fingers which is what we do now. It’s sickening.

  • Apr 27, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    This is a dumb take. By the true Marxist / Leninist definition of communism, no country has ever been a real communist society. Just putting the word “communist” in the name of a country does not make it magically communist

    A (modern) communist society has never existed. In the 60s, the leader of the USSR famously said that "in 20 years we will achieve communism" which didn't occur. If he says this, it means that he didn't consider the USSR to have communism (which is correct).

    When we call them communist countries, we mean they are countries trying to work towards implementing communism.

    Communism being a classless, moneyless, stateless society.

    Socialism being the link between the current capitalist system and the hypothetical future communist system.

    Marx himself used the words socialism and communism interchangeably which adds to confusion, but we use Lenin's definitions nowadays to make things clearer. Marx didn't differentiate between socialism and communism but between "lower stage communism" and "higher stage communism".

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  • Apr 28, 2021
    CurlyZ

    Mfs in America be worried about losing their freedom under Socialism, but work 80 hours a week and drive Uber on the side just to afford their basic needs for survival and ended up dying on the Amazon warehouse floor at 97 years old trying get a Poop Emoji pop socket into a shipping box in under 12 seconds after cutting their retirement short when their $50 in social security benefits ran out.

    We living like this while European socialists over there vibing with a 4 day work week and buying homes with their silly little living wages.

    Europe is not the paradise you think it is bro lol