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  • Dec 28, 2023
    spongebob

    Lmao dawg if u can’t handle not blowing your lid on one discussion then that’s a reflection on you, i hope you can iron out some of the stress u dealing with because i think ur heart is in the right place on a lot of things and u probably know more than me in some areas but u can’t come in hot like that and then blame it on someone else when u throwing gasoline on a fire

    u on discord? could u @ me?

  • Dec 30, 2023
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    one of the most braindead takes ive ever seen from someone calling themselves a Communist

    getting so many white CPC d***riders in my recommended and its such a strange archetype

  • Dec 31, 2023
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    fun guy

    one of the most braindead takes ive ever seen from someone calling themselves a Communist

    getting so many white CPC d***riders in my recommended and its such a strange archetype

    https://twitter.com/johnm_jenks/status/1740844683473899728

    How ridiculous is the idea that Chinese left wing opposition to their government's right wing domestic economic policies somehow weakens the Palestinian cause? Does Foxconn need to triple its profit margins before Xi sanctions Israel? Will giving Chinese people free Healthcare prevent the return of Palestinian refugees?

    Iran's role is a bit nuanced, but when it comes to Palestine, the modern Chinese and Russian governments take a liberal zionist stance at best in international bodies, and at worst pour billions into the Israeli military industrial complex. Chinese companies are directly involved in the IOF panopticon surveilling the West Bank. Neither of them back the Palestinian resistance, not even nominally.

    I just wish these campist clowns like OP would stop draping themselves in the flag of communism.

  • Jan 1, 2024
    the reds

    Unrelated but kinda related story time

    Went to my home country over the summer and had an interesting encounter with a Chinese immigrant. Was walking outside the bakery when I saw a young Asian guy leaning on a truck with some chinese writing. I was surprised cuz its really rare to see non-africans people here (except turks but thats another story), but I'd especially never seen an east Asian. So I guess he caught me staring him and waved so I went up to him and greeted him and said i apologize for staring but id never seen an asian here before. Anyways I ask him whats he doing here n he tells me his chauffeur is picking up bread. So im like nah what brought you to THIS COUNTRY (looking back i mightve come off as "wtf is this f***ing immigrant doing in muh country 🤬" LMAO) and he's like ooooh I came here for work. Dude starts yapping to me his whole life story which i mostly forgot but the gist is he was an OK student, went to uni got a lib arts degree, couldn't find a good job in China so he came here. So I'm like wow that's very surprising I didn't think of this country as one foreigners would come to for jobs! And he's like oh yeah there's a lot of opportunities here because there's a lot of companies but they have trouble hiring cuz Chinese people don't want to come to Africa, but u can make a lot more here than China. Work culture in China is also crazy, whereas over here s*** is much more relaxed. I ask him if he misses China and he's like "man i miss it so much i have been here for 3 years and I want to stay for 2 more" So I ask him if he he has any future plans with those savings and he's like "yeah i want to get into real estate, thats where the real money is" and hes goes on a bit of a sigma male grindset tangent 😭. At this point we've been talking for like half an hour and he says he's gotta get going so we part ways. Didn't ask him anything political as I already felt I mightve been a bit invasive. What struck me is how familiar a lot of the s*** he was saying bout graduating and struggling to get a good job is. I guess BELT & ROAD is kinda of an exhaust valve for guys like him. Bro was getting chauffeured around in a lexus too, he got a bougier lifestyle abroad even if it's third world. As a canadian the s*** about getting into real estate and becoming his own boss also gave me some flashbacks about those kinda co-workers who swear they're gonna flip their minimum wage paycheck to buy a condo downtown and never work again but I guess as a suit in some chinese tech company it's much more plausible. He seemed like a chill guy, Im rooting for him 🙏🏾 inshaalah in 2 years he will own like 40 properties in Guangzhou and succesfully lobby the municipality to relax eviction regulations.

    lol

  • Jan 1, 2024
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    Happy new year to KTT2's communists

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    Lein

    Happy new year to KTT2's communists

  • Jan 1, 2024
    Lein

    Happy new year to KTT2's communists

  • Jan 2, 2024

    Lol

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    Lein

    Happy new year to KTT2's communists

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Anyone here familiar with hauntology?

    The concept's finally clicked with me and it's sad and disturbing

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Just watched Immortal Technique on IG live scoff at the idea of Marxism because Latin America doesn't need a rich white European to tell them how to share

  • Jan 3, 2024
    fiveprestos

    Just watched Immortal Technique on IG live scoff at the idea of Marxism because Latin America doesn't need a rich white European to tell them how to share

    GOTTEM

    he went crazy

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Skinn Foley

    Anyone here familiar with hauntology?

    The concept's finally clicked with me and it's sad and disturbing

    yeah i read Fischer

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Choking

    yeah i read Fischer

    How do you feel about it?

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Skinn Foley

    Anyone here familiar with hauntology?

    The concept's finally clicked with me and it's sad and disturbing

    What are the basics of hauntology as you understand it now and do you have a recommendation for where I can learn more about it?

  • Jan 3, 2024
    MrMudManMood

    What are the basics of hauntology as you understand it now and do you have a recommendation for where I can learn more about it?

    Books to read, that I've read, on the subject:

    • The Society of the Spectacle (Guy Debord) a good primer for understanding the concept of "simulation", which helps to define "hauntological" existence later on, but isn't about hauntology and predates the concept
    • Simulacra and Simulation (Jean Baudrillard) same as above but way closer to a hauntological a***ysis, but it's almost impossible to understand this book without reading Society of the Spectacle, which itself requires some extensive historical and theoretical research to fully appreciate
    • Specters of Marx (Jacques Derrida) Overblown and slightly pretentious introduction to "hauntology" as we know it. It's a great book but there's a lot of fluff, some left anti-communism (albeit understandable given the publication date, 1993), and Derrida regularly gets lost in his own head (and impressed at his own thoughts). But the fundamental a***ysis is still really good.
    • Capitalist Realism (Mark Fisher) Contextualizes and breaks down Derrida's concept of hauntology for the modern world and our lack of ability to imagine a different future, a post-capitalist future, due to the uprising of neoliberalism and the outcome of the Cold War

    Gonna continue wrt how I understand hauntology in the next post.

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    How I've come to understand hauntology is that our species collectively has lost the ability to imagine a better or even fundamentally different world than we already occupy. Any conception of a better, different world that crops up from time to time is simply a reimagining of a vision of the future from the past that never came true, because the future that humanity was building towards in the past was "canceled" due to neoliberalism and the fall of the Eastern Bloc and near-destruction of socialism.

    Because that past never came true and socialism didn't win the Cold War, and the present order is an unnatural, viscous ideological vacuum that always becomes recentered around capitalist realism, propped up by the ruling class as a last ditch, but successful, effort to hold onto their way of life/power/privileges, collectively our species cannot imagine any other future than a future that's already been imagined. This leads to unending waves of nostalgia and rote, unproductive social activism that never goes far enough in actually igniting a revolutionary moment. Basically, it's as if the 20th century never ended, and time stopped moving politically since the 80s, because the future so many were hoping for and sacrificing for abruptly fell apart in the span of about 5 years. Everything from Soviet nostalgia to HD remakes to musical revivalist movements is a symptom of our lack of evolution as a species, an evolution that was halted and abandoned unnaturally between 1988-1992.

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Skinn Foley

    How do you feel about it?

    idk i agree with it that it’s hard to imagine a future that isn’t capitalism or capitalism collapsing on itself but like what else can u do with the concept other than get depressed

  • Jan 3, 2024
    Choking

    idk i agree with it that it’s hard to imagine a future that isn’t capitalism or capitalism collapsing on itself but like what else can u do with the concept other than get depressed

    I think for me it's important to study because I'm truly committed to doing my part to revive America's radical left. No single person can do this obviously and any attempt at doing so single-handedly is anti-socialist and extremely vain, but everyone can do their part and I would like to use my writing skills and obsessive personality to help build confidence in working class revolution again, amongst the contemporary American working class.

    It's hard to build this confidence when we don't address why there is a lack of confidence in working class revolution to begin with, and I think that starts by understanding hauntology

  • Jan 3, 2024

    This is why I ride for China and why I personally consider revolution a necessary prerequisite for building socialism.

    The masses need a stake in the revolution in an immediate and visceral sense. That sense of direct sacrifice, direct struggle, and direct input makes people more attached to what they are trying to build, and are less likely to let go of the revolution or to lose discipline in maintaining it.

    I genuinely feel that ideological discipline that is transformed into class-action is the lifeblood of revolution. I think the lack of one or the other being sharpened to precision can make a revolution very unstable, and I think history is on my side in that regard.

    I ride for China because you need to give workers hope that working class revolution isn't a futile exercise but is a long, protracted, uneven, nonlinear struggle. When people blankly dismiss the CPC as being completely anti-socialist, it reminds me of left anti-communism during the Soviet era, which was corrosive to world revolution and discipline/commitment within revolutionary societies.

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Books that have informed this perspective include:

    • Freedom Is a Constant Struggle
    • The Russian Revolution: A View From the Third World
    • Desert
    • Blackshirts & Reds
    • How Far We Slaves Have Come!
    • Socialism Betrayed

    And the purpose of wrestling through understanding hauntology, to me, is to get the working class to see hope in itself and hope in its ability to transform society collectively, with or without the existence of a strong socialist ally in the world. It's been done before and can be done again, but it won't be done the same way it was done in the past because it can't be, and until we collectively understand this, I don't think revolution will be possible.

    In case y'all just think this is some eclectic self-indulgent belief of mine.

  • Jan 3, 2024

    This kept me up last night though so I'm ITT tryna flesh this out lol

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Skinn Foley

    Books that have informed this perspective include:

    • Freedom Is a Constant Struggle
    • The Russian Revolution: A View From the Third World
    • Desert
    • Blackshirts & Reds
    • How Far We Slaves Have Come!
    • Socialism Betrayed

    And the purpose of wrestling through understanding hauntology, to me, is to get the working class to see hope in itself and hope in its ability to transform society collectively, with or without the existence of a strong socialist ally in the world. It's been done before and can be done again, but it won't be done the same way it was done in the past because it can't be, and until we collectively understand this, I don't think revolution will be possible.

    In case y'all just think this is some eclectic self-indulgent belief of mine.

    yet no Capital

  • Jan 3, 2024
    Choking

    yet no Capital

    I've read a good chunk of Capital but I haven't finished it yet

    The only books by Marx I haven't read at all are The Grundrisse, Vol. 2 & 3 of Capital, and that book he wrote on Napoleon, but I want to read the latter.

    I want to read them all but it takes a lot of time and there's a lot of ground to cover so I've been building little curricula for myself to study and then adding to these curricula over time as the foundation of what I've read, and hopefully understand, expands

  • Jan 3, 2024
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    Funny reading reddit about former commie countries being far more progressive and fair but always adding an "NOT EXCUSING THE USSR OR EAST GERMANY" ultimate cucks