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  • Jan 14, 2023
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    SEGA GOON

    Whom tf giving Bill Gates Reddit awards?

    i thought this was a random lil guy not bill gates

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    rami

    i thought this was a random lil guy not bill gates

    thisisbillgates

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    SEGA GOON

    thisisbillgates

    i didn't look at the users cause they're usually useless tbf

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    Starting my long journey of reading all three volumes of Capital tomorrow

    I’ve read most of vol one over the years but never went cover to cover so excited to do that but really looking forward to the second two

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    Sir Real

    Starting my long journey of reading all three volumes of Capital tomorrow

    I’ve read most of vol one over the years but never went cover to cover so excited to do that but really looking forward to the second two

    is capital huge? the manifesto is so dense and then i was gonna read wage, labour and capital, with capital after that.

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    rami

    is capital huge? the manifesto is so dense and then i was gonna read wage, labour and capital, with capital after that.

    It’s like 800 pages

    Also you should read Principles of Communism and/or Anti Duhring by Engels before you read the Manifesto, depending on how familiar you are with communist theory. If you’re relatively new, start with Principles. If you’re ready to dive in and get a great all around exposition of Marxism, you can jump straight to Anti Duhring

    Manifesto is overrated and not a great representation of Marx and Engels thought because they were trying to synthesize the various tendencies within the Communist League

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    Sir Real

    It’s like 800 pages

    Also you should read Principles of Communism and/or Anti Duhring by Engels before you read the Manifesto, depending on how familiar you are with communist theory. If you’re relatively new, start with Principles. If you’re ready to dive in and get a great all around exposition of Marxism, you can jump straight to Anti Duhring

    Manifesto is overrated and not a great representation of Marx and Engels thought because they were trying to synthesize the various tendencies within the Communist League

    800 pages. f***ing harry potter book. now i understand why it sounds like a lot. ty.

    i feel like someone told me this before but due to manifesto language being so annoying to read. Will prob finish this tho, and then read principles and anti, then read manifesto again

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    rami

    800 pages. f***ing harry potter book. now i understand why it sounds like a lot. ty.

    i feel like someone told me this before but due to manifesto language being so annoying to read. Will prob finish this tho, and then read principles and anti, then read manifesto again

    Good plan. Always feel free to ask questions and s***, and good luck on your journey bro

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    Sir Real

    It’s like 800 pages

    Also you should read Principles of Communism and/or Anti Duhring by Engels before you read the Manifesto, depending on how familiar you are with communist theory. If you’re relatively new, start with Principles. If you’re ready to dive in and get a great all around exposition of Marxism, you can jump straight to Anti Duhring

    Manifesto is overrated and not a great representation of Marx and Engels thought because they were trying to synthesize the various tendencies within the Communist League

    engels work isnt that good imo

    turns dialectics from a tool to critique capital to a binding law

    @rami ”reading capital politically” by harry cleaver or heinrich’s guide

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    sniper

    engels work isnt that good imo

    turns dialectics from a tool to critique capital to a binding law

    @rami ”reading capital politically” by harry cleaver or heinrich’s guide

    Dog you literally just hate anything any Marxist ever wrote lol

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    sniper

    engels work isnt that good imo

    turns dialectics from a tool to critique capital to a binding law

    @rami ”reading capital politically” by harry cleaver or heinrich’s guide

    • reads anarchist theory
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    rami

    is capital huge? the manifesto is so dense and then i was gonna read wage, labour and capital, with capital after that.

    Bro if the manifesto is dense then capital is gonna kill u. Principles of Communism by Engels or the commonly recommended Ernest Mandel Introduction to Marxist Economics

  • Jan 14, 2023
    Womanpuncher69
    • reads anarchist theory

    theanarchistlibrary.org/library/prolle-stroll

    Tonight was the night we fought. Nothing could stop us. We are proles on our stroll. Fighting our conditions. we are workers-in-combat. Rent signs, kicked. Garbage, in the street. The moment we drank John Zerzans c***was the same moment-in-time that we became human again. We are the barbarians at the gates of capitalist hell. Destroying the world again and again.

    The forms-of-life that make possible the transformation of everything took the streets once again tonight. Tonight was our night. The night we doing being like always. The totality of our existance became nothing more than a moneky on our collective backs as proles, which we threw off like bottles broken in front of the precinct. Tonight was a prole stroll. Its the new form by which we destroy the world as it is. Nothing will stop a crew of 60 something proles on their stroll. Nothing can get me higher than the rush of kicking a f***ing rent sign underneath a stupid truck. Communism prevailed once again. We share the feeling of riot with our neighbors whom joyfully joined in as we went besererk. The ghost of lenin showed his face as he warned: "Don't f*** with time". The proles on their strol only respond with, "we detroy time like eggs under out collective boots".

    We swing on the monkey bars of bio-politics, and thus make it irelevant, like pizza (social contruct). We got the phone call, "Agamben and Heidegger and are rioting in the park and need solidarity". We respond like hawks on a hunt. Vultures looking for cracks in the moral fabrics of society to rip and tear at. We arrive. We destroy. We prole it the f*** up. We move past our Species-being and finally achieve Species-Blingin, at least for a couple hours. The cops arrive, they are destroyed. They are nothing and they can do nothing when proles begin to stroll. In our everyday lives, we walk, we run, we talk, we buy, but we are too afraid to stroll. This was different. To stroll is to achieve your Species-Blingin and negate Crimethinc. When we negate crimethinc, we negate our being-as-such. We Stroll and chant "time is crimethinc" and "communism for cougars", and "green capitalism is for sissies".

    Garbage lay in our wake as good citizens yell and try to argue. They recieve nothing more than the gift of our violence. We kcik them in the hats. They fall hard. We take the hats. They try to be Lenin. Try again. F***er. We desire nothing more thn the proliferation of infoshops and then their destructoin. We build them and then destroy them like our stupid lives. We build we build we build, and then we burn burn burn. Crimethinc is our conditions. We must negate it as such. Tonight we felt the reality of the war-machine channel through our arms and legs as we pushed dumpsters onto the sidewalks and streets, stopping the flow of stupidity and commodaties. Druken frat boyz cant walk down this sidewalk without having to walk around a flaming dumpster or two. Same with trucks and cars. Feel our wrath. People remark "sweet black eye b****" which we respond to with black eyes to them.

    We are the most prole of animals, humans. We will sick our mind dogs on cops and local stores alike. And while bossy f. emails amazon.com, we roam the street looking for trouble and garbage to throw in the street. This is all we desire. Mo' Garbagio. Add some matches, and you got rev. solidarity. We realized that our collective forms-of-life cannot create a real challenge to what capitalism offers(beef jerky), but that we can at least throw garbage in the street some more which is a whole lot of fun.

    Identity politics is not a molitov cocktail. It is the opposite, a empty milk jug. We are not looking for some stupid jug to fill with water. We want more garbage. Keep throwin s*** away proles. Dont get tricked. We dont need empty jugs. We need the prole cocktail (you know!). Work never. Garbage always. Love it love it.

    Love,
    Proles on da strollz

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    Sir Real

    Dog you literally just hate anything any Marxist ever wrote lol

    I don’t, but I am very critical of the “orthodox” stuff

    I prefer more of the left-communist stuff, even though there are diverse strains of thought contained within that

    autonomism/communization particularly have a lot of appeal to me, since I think they have given a deeper materialist Marxist a***ysis of our current post-industrial world rather than simply engaging with dogmatic ghosts from a different world, where Keynesianism still had relevancy and the post-colonial moment hadn’t ended

    It shows that there is a way to engage with Marx without being held back.

    I like to be somewhat ecclectic and incorporate these a***yses into my own thinking, I don’t consider myself a “Marxist” because I don’t follow the teachings of any one person.

  • Jan 15, 2023
    space0cadet

    Hate seeing this guy on my timeline every day

    this dude just popped up for me lol. now i know why he'd be known here

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    Sir Real

    Good plan. Always feel free to ask questions and s***, and good luck on your journey bro

    you too man! yall have been helpful

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    SEGA GOON

    Bro if the manifesto is dense then capital is gonna kill u. Principles of Communism by Engels or the commonly recommended Ernest Mandel Introduction to Marxist Economics

    idk what it is lol, but i can only read like 5 pages at a time

    other times i'm looking up definitions + most of what i've read so far i already knew so i'm just not super engaged i guess.

    I assume the Mandel is the same as "...Marxist Economic Theory"? if so cool cause it's on that marxist site

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    rami

    idk what it is lol, but i can only read like 5 pages at a time

    other times i'm looking up definitions + most of what i've read so far i already knew so i'm just not super engaged i guess.

    I assume the Mandel is the same as "...Marxist Economic Theory"? if so cool cause it's on that marxist site

    Correct, read the Mandel one Classic in this thread

  • Jan 15, 2023
    Womanpuncher69
    • reads anarchist theory

    crine no wonder i have them blocked for so long. I don't even remember what the impetus was

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    shut the F*** UP talking about "Engels wasn't that good"

    me- only having read like maybe 1-5% of engels work

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    Personally i see above ideological lines as well so that’s why i take ideas from people i don’t like Stalin anarchism (killing beuacrats) and combine them from tendacies u don’t expect like Bukharin nazism ( being anti-semitic)

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    SEGA GOON

    Correct, read the Mandel one Classic in this thread

    everytime i come in here i get another read lol

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    rami

    everytime i come in here i get another read lol

    That's the one we recommend to all new readers tbh

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