Oct 11, 2022·2 replieskrishna boundi just use this thread for s***posting but most people here are way more well read and politically articulate in a meaningful manner than like virtually anyone else on this site regardless of what i agree/disagree with them on
I don't dislike them because they made jokes about my mom; I just think it's cliche and expected better.
Come on, mom jokes on the internet in 2022?
If some of y'all are actually articulate and well-read, you haven't demonstrated it (other than Bear Meme Guy). It's just disappointing.
- Oct 11, 2022·1 reply
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krishna is easily the most well read person on this forum. You said so yourself that you held him in esteem. the fact that you’d immediately dismiss his ideas due to you finding out his positive engagement with Marxism rather than reconsider your position just points to you assuming uncritical, chauvinist positions regarding unfamiliar conceptsThis is another thing. Slow down. Read what I said again.
You rush so much to make conclusions along pre-conceived biases that your comprehension suffers.
I've known about Krishna's ideology for a long time (not like they shut up about it), and I haven't dismissed anything. I just expected y'all to present your arguments better.
- Oct 11, 2022eye contact
Bro is Nigerian calling for an imperialist system
See what I said about rushing to conclusions.
- Oct 11, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
This is another thing. Slow down. Read what I said again.
You rush so much to make conclusions along pre-conceived biases that your comprehension suffers.
I've known about Krishna's ideology for a long time (not like they shut up about it), and I haven't dismissed anything. I just expected y'all to present your arguments better.
Nobody wants to provide arguments to you since you evidently don’t have an open mind
You regularly argue things that were proven wrong pages ago
- Oct 11, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
I don't dislike them because they made jokes about my mom; I just think it's cliche and expected better.
Come on, mom jokes on the internet in 2022?
If some of y'all are actually articulate and well-read, you haven't demonstrated it (other than Bear Meme Guy). It's just disappointing.
I don't know what you expected when you come into a thread immediately hostile and with bad faith arguments, people aren't going to engage you seriously when you come into their circle immediately biased and with the smug pre-emptive disposition of "heh can't wait to prove them wrong". I don't agree with many people in this thread but you can go back several hundred pages and see me arguing with people here in a civilized back and forth manner w/o it devolving into arbitrary argument because I came in with the purpose of actual debate rather than bad faith assumption. While the thread's old and locked now, you can look at me debating in the conservative thread if you want an example of going into someone else's thread to debate ideologically w/o just being a redditor
Oct 11, 2022@CrippledGod you're squeezing something that's already juiced. Once you were proven wrong there was nothing else to add to the argument
If you want something 100% serious even AFTER the real "debate" is done KTT isn't the place
- Oct 11, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
I don't know what you expected when you come into a thread immediately hostile and with bad faith arguments, people aren't going to engage you seriously when you come into their circle immediately biased and with the smug pre-emptive disposition of "heh can't wait to prove them wrong". I don't agree with many people in this thread but you can go back several hundred pages and see me arguing with people here in a civilized back and forth manner w/o it devolving into arbitrary argument because I came in with the purpose of actual debate rather than bad faith assumption. While the thread's old and locked now, you can look at me debating in the conservative thread if you want an example of going into someone else's thread to debate ideologically w/o just being a redditor
I came into the thread immediately hostile and arguing in bad faith?
Come on, man. You're better than this. Read though the past couple of pages again.
- Oct 11, 2022eye contact
Nobody wants to provide arguments to you since you evidently don’t have an open mind
You regularly argue things that were proven wrong pages ago
That's not true? We got caught up in tangents about whose mom was a w**** and what market capitalization was, but if you go through the thread, you'll see that my entire point was "let's go over these links/graphs one by one with actual/new data"
Check it again, I haven't edited anything.
- Oct 11, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
I came into the thread immediately hostile and arguing in bad faith?
Come on, man. You're better than this. Read though the past couple of pages again.
you came into the thread for the purpose of debate and were immediately proven wrong but kept going even when proven the methodology was nonsensical. there was never a point where you were going to admit you were wrong which is why it's bad faith. ofc people in this thread are biased, i don't know what you expected there by extension,
when your argument at one point literally becomes "some old guy definitely never thought of this" as if economics hasn't been a field of constant back and forth debate for almost 200+ years now of which such economic theory has survived i don't know what to tell you really. you're already off on a bad start and now you're playing it down because you like dislike the way the conversation went and want to make it about personal opinion and virtue rather than the topic of discussion
Oct 11, 2022yall still going god damn
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- Oct 11, 2022eye contact
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- Oct 11, 2022·2 replieskrishna bound
you came into the thread for the purpose of debate and were immediately proven wrong but kept going even when proven the methodology was nonsensical. there was never a point where you were going to admit you were wrong which is why it's bad faith. ofc people in this thread are biased, i don't know what you expected there by extension,
when your argument at one point literally becomes "some old guy definitely never thought of this" as if economics hasn't been a field of constant back and forth debate for almost 200+ years now of which such economic theory has survived i don't know what to tell you really. you're already off on a bad start and now you're playing it down because you like dislike the way the conversation went and want to make it about personal opinion and virtue rather than the topic of discussion
Did I come into the thread immediately hostile and arguing in bad faith or looking for debate? I'm sure you'll agree there's a difference.
1. Simple random sampling is a valid technique unlike what that other poster said.
2. The S&P doesn't work the way the other poster seems to think (inclusion based on profitability)
Those are actual facts, so why would I agree that they were wrong? I even took into account (and stated) the fact that the S&P might not be representative and tried to get a randomly selected Nigerian company to check out their books.
When they provided charts, I asked to take them one by one so I could provide other studies and charts that directly went against them.
I don't know of y'all IRL, I'm not remotely interested in having a drawn out argument about ideology, and I honestly don't mind the way the conversation went. It was entertaining when it was on topic and it was entertaining when it was jokes.
If you honestly think I'm the type to try make a conversation about virtue and play s*** down rather than troll, then you must not remember the username.
- Oct 11, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
Did I come into the thread immediately hostile and arguing in bad faith or looking for debate? I'm sure you'll agree there's a difference.
1. Simple random sampling is a valid technique unlike what that other poster said.
2. The S&P doesn't work the way the other poster seems to think (inclusion based on profitability)
Those are actual facts, so why would I agree that they were wrong? I even took into account (and stated) the fact that the S&P might not be representative and tried to get a randomly selected Nigerian company to check out their books.
When they provided charts, I asked to take them one by one so I could provide other studies and charts that directly went against them.
I don't know of y'all IRL, I'm not remotely interested in having a drawn out argument about ideology, and I honestly don't mind the way the conversation went. It was entertaining when it was on topic and it was entertaining when it was jokes.
If you honestly think I'm the type to try make a conversation about virtue and play s*** down rather than troll, then you must not remember the username.
You’re telling people who work in international tax law how the S&P 500 work
- Oct 11, 2022eye contact
You’re telling people who work in international tax law how the S&P 500 work
If they think companies get into the S&P 500 based on how much profit they make, they're wrong. It doesn't matter if they founded Google.
It's public information. I provided a link but you can look it up yourself.
- Oct 11, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
Did I come into the thread immediately hostile and arguing in bad faith or looking for debate? I'm sure you'll agree there's a difference.
1. Simple random sampling is a valid technique unlike what that other poster said.
2. The S&P doesn't work the way the other poster seems to think (inclusion based on profitability)
Those are actual facts, so why would I agree that they were wrong? I even took into account (and stated) the fact that the S&P might not be representative and tried to get a randomly selected Nigerian company to check out their books.
When they provided charts, I asked to take them one by one so I could provide other studies and charts that directly went against them.
I don't know of y'all IRL, I'm not remotely interested in having a drawn out argument about ideology, and I honestly don't mind the way the conversation went. It was entertaining when it was on topic and it was entertaining when it was jokes.
If you honestly think I'm the type to try make a conversation about virtue and play s*** down rather than troll, then you must not remember the username.
you can look to debate in bad faith, that's kind of the point
is there ever a scenario you were going to admit you were wrong? 1) simple random sampling is a valid technique in some discretions. just because simple random sampling is valid for gauging sociological populations doesn't mean it's valid for economics. half of what allows a debate is agreed baseline/foundational methodology. if you don't agree on this even when others push on it, the debate is already over unless you agree to change methodologies.
2) why would the S&P be the point of discussion anyway? it inherently has to do with stock performance, it's indicative of the economy only in the sense of federal reserve endorsed macroeconomics, which isn't what anyone in this thread is trying to argue. If all you care about is relative "US economic growth" (as endorsed by the fed) arguments you're arguing the wrong thing. And this doesn't even take into stock-adjusted inflation. this is one of the scenarios where not reading or understanding marxist theory but thinking you understand it is an issue, because you think everyone is implying one thing but it's actually unrelated.
- Oct 11, 2022krishna bound
you can look to debate in bad faith, that's kind of the point
is there ever a scenario you were going to admit you were wrong? 1) simple random sampling is a valid technique in some discretions. just because simple random sampling is valid for gauging sociological populations doesn't mean it's valid for economics. half of what allows a debate is agreed baseline/foundational methodology. if you don't agree on this even when others push on it, the debate is already over unless you agree to change methodologies.
2) why would the S&P be the point of discussion anyway? it inherently has to do with stock performance, it's indicative of the economy only in the sense of federal reserve endorsed macroeconomics, which isn't what anyone in this thread is trying to argue. If all you care about is relative "US economic growth" (as endorsed by the fed) arguments you're arguing the wrong thing. And this doesn't even take into stock-adjusted inflation. this is one of the scenarios where not reading or understanding marxist theory but thinking you understand it is an issue, because you think everyone is implying one thing but it's actually unrelated.
Why would I want to engage in a bad faith discussion about capitalism of all things? If it was Jay Z, absolutely. Another poster also thought that I would mess with the numbers after the sampling, like why? I'm bored, not psychopathic.
1. Would you say simple random sampling is a valid way to select a number from 1 to 50 at random?
2. I addressed why I selected the S&P. I said it was the easiest way to get access to a company's financial information. It's easier to find out what Google made as profit than it is Dan & Mead's Home Cooked Meals and Bar
Oct 11, 2022·3 repliesLooked into Tulsi Gabbards foreign policy after seeing that video of hers leaving the democrats, and she is CURRENTLY a lieutenant colonel in the US Army's PsyOps division
lmaoooo. On foreign policy, she's a blood thirsty enthusiast for the war-on-terror: loves guantanamo bay and wants the US to fly around the world "bombing terrorrists", but draws the line at regime change. Ironically she's a proud Iraq war veteran 
but now she says she wants deescalation with Syria/Iran/Russia/China and wants to break ties with Saudi Arabia. Unsurprisingly she's also a zionist but what is surprising is she's actually Hindu and supports hindutva Modi.
Oct 11, 2022this kid is actual cancer bruh i hit the block
s*** is like a pest
keeps on posting cryhah smileys
And I thought my brain was cooked
Oct 11, 2022the redsLooked into Tulsi Gabbards foreign policy after seeing that video of hers leaving the democrats, and she is CURRENTLY a lieutenant colonel in the US Army's PsyOps division
lmaoooo. On foreign policy, she's a blood thirsty enthusiast for the war-on-terror: loves guantanamo bay and wants the US to fly around the world "bombing terrorrists", but draws the line at regime change. Ironically she's a proud Iraq war veteran but now she says she wants deescalation with Syria/Iran/Russia/China and wants to break ties with Saudi Arabia. Unsurprisingly she's also a zionist but what is surprising is she's actually Hindu and supports hindutva Modi.Yeah she supports terroristic Hindu nationalists too
Edit: oh I missed you got that part lol
- Oct 11, 2022the reds
Looked into Tulsi Gabbards foreign policy after seeing that video of hers leaving the democrats, and she is CURRENTLY a lieutenant colonel in the US Army's PsyOps division
lmaoooo. On foreign policy, she's a blood thirsty enthusiast for the war-on-terror: loves guantanamo bay and wants the US to fly around the world "bombing terrorrists", but draws the line at regime change. Ironically she's a proud Iraq war veteran but now she says she wants deescalation with Syria/Iran/Russia/China and wants to break ties with Saudi Arabia. Unsurprisingly she's also a zionist but what is surprising is she's actually Hindu and supports hindutva Modi.A big part of her foreign policy is "our soldiers shouldn't get hurt" bc her friends got their legs blown off or whatever. The implication would be that she has no problems with drone warfare and other forms of aggression with less physical contact between humans.
- Oct 11, 2022·2 repliesthe reds
Looked into Tulsi Gabbards foreign policy after seeing that video of hers leaving the democrats, and she is CURRENTLY a lieutenant colonel in the US Army's PsyOps division
lmaoooo. On foreign policy, she's a blood thirsty enthusiast for the war-on-terror: loves guantanamo bay and wants the US to fly around the world "bombing terrorrists", but draws the line at regime change. Ironically she's a proud Iraq war veteran but now she says she wants deescalation with Syria/Iran/Russia/China and wants to break ties with Saudi Arabia. Unsurprisingly she's also a zionist but what is surprising is she's actually Hindu and supports hindutva Modi.My dad was like “She’s one of the good democrats. Plus she’s hot!”
- Oct 11, 2022·1 replyeye contact
I havent read it in years but doesn’t he work to make such a conclusion that the neoliberal system will be subject to collapse before revolution ?
This conclusion seems obvious