People are more worried about whether people can buy in excess over whether people have basic necessities smh

The point is in the vast, incredible wealth discrepancy in a capitalist society.

We have people here worrying about owning a bunch of property where they can have workers work a wage for them and thats their main concern.

About their own selves. A selfish concern

Meanwhile many people are worrying about not having healthcare, or being evicted, or doing back-breaking work for a pitiful wage.

The point is to close this gap to where people don't needlessly suffer.

And maybe it takes a little bit less selfishness to understand that as a worthwhile goal: to ease the suffering of humanity.

But it seems that's foreign to a lot of you.

Human nature isn't to just go into work and do a monotonous task all day everyday just to want to drink yourself to death on the weekends and dread the weekdays coming back around again by Sunday. Not everything in human existence is driven just by the increasing the profit margin (often times for someone else). Contrary to popular belief

Now a lot of you want to be the "top dog" capitalist so that you have a certain level of freedom, socialism would allow freedom for most if not all people, because they wouldn't be so depleted by work and they'd be able to go out and be creative, socialize, and actually have a life (LIKE YOU ARE FEARING WILL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU; A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET THE CHANCE DUE TO CAPITALISM AND GREED),

It's a chance at a better life for a much greater amount of people.

There's an adjustment period. It's not all immediate.

and thats facts

People need to be taught that property ownership is not even beneficial for them if they value housing. The state can and should provide secure tenancy. You can live in a state house your whole life without any issues. Not only that, but all repairs are done for you. It is also less commitment because you can just leave whenever you want without having yo deal with you the housing market.

There is no benefit to owning a house vs living in a state house outside of the selfish need for profit and fear of the capitalist system these people will defend.

The only reasons property ownership exists is because people want to pass a house onto the kids who then sell it. They only want to do this because capitalism has taught them that housing is not a right and we are all out for ourselves. The other reason property ownership exists is because people have been abused by private landlords.

It blows my mind anyone wants to own property. I lived in state housing most of my whole life until I started living in a caravan last year. Never had an issue with state housing. It is secure and convenient.

If the argument is that they do not trust the state with housing then that argument also applies to private property because the state has the power to confiscate that.

Mfs really about to defend capitalism until there’s just like 50 mega rich people in this country and everybody else is living in shacks begging for scraps.

This is the end result of true capitalism and anybody that says otherwise is either brainwashed or lying to you.

Empathy and capitalism simply do not mix.

The capitalist at the very top will never support providing everybody shelter, healthcare, and equality of opportunity because those things would mean a widespread redistribution of wealth which means less money in richest peoples pockets.

At the end of the day, if poor children are eating three meals a day that means billionaires won’t be able to their 18th yacht and beach house mansion in Cabo, so it’s in their best interest to insure that those children starve.

“Capitalism drives innovation”

Yes, this is why mega corporations have done everything in their power to suppress green energy innovation that is more efficient and affordable for decades so that dependency on fossil fuels continue.

Stop repeating yourselves and taking the moral high ground and answer some questions.

1. What makes you think that members of the communist party who control the industries and have access to some finer things in life are not going to want to own private property down the line?

2. What makes you think that people are going to enjoy their jobs more? The nature of the jobs gonna be the same... Or you guys think that a cleaner going to enjoy his job now that he knows the doctor has the same lifestyle after work?

Educate yourself bro

Like read some theory pleb

or not

Crine @ captilism with empathy.

The cleaner would enjoy his job more because he would feel more empowered. He and his fellow cleaners would be able to ensure they have humane treatment, don’t get overworked, have proper equipment and aren’t taken advantage of.

The cleaner would probably be happier knowing that his contribution to keeping our community clean is valued and he doesn’t have to worry about how he can feed his family

Obviously, nothing will ever make work completely fun but knowing that you’re able to have a decent place to sleep and food along with other needs provided would be a massive stress relief.

Question for you does the doctor under capitalism enjoy his job more because he knows the cleaner is barely getting by?

that's one of the best ones they throw out there

The ideology of Communism is Purely dialetical materialism which my religion rejects, all reputable scholars have also rejected Communism and being a Muslim at the same time lmao.

/thread

1. Traitors are shamed and killed.

2. Automation will help a lot.

@spacecadet aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/one-muslim-communist

Read this.

I have a feeling there are plenty of similar rejections of communism by Christian scholars

probably on that same basis of 'they think religions the opium of the people'

Christianity at least has an argument for being Communist.

Horrid answers.

Im against capital punishment. Guess i cant be a socialist :(

Islamic Economics is inherently left-wing but not Communist, end of story

Oh no bby pls become communist with me bby

Khomeini said economics is for donkeys

Should change thread title to this lmao