i dont even understand why left leaning people care so much to prove he was a groyper instead of someone "on the left" like they aren't supportive of his actions
Ultimately with how incoherent peoples politics are, including and maybe especially younger people, he might not have even been deep into that s***, we really dont know other than little hints here or there.
Theres a void of info and people are desperate for anything to grab onto
if he was one of those it would line up a lot of things but we just dont know for sure and im not certain how much info they want to release bc it might contradict the admin a lot
There legitimately isnāt a single ounce of real evidence pointing to him being a groyper.
A friend of his, that was interviewed, said he was a leftist and always shared his leftist political views.
A second friend of his, that was interviewed, said he expressed how much he disliked Donald Trump.
His family members quoted him
as saying that he hated Charlie because Charlie was āfull of hate and spreading hateā. Thatās not why a groyper would hate Charlie Kirk.
The entire theory origin is that apparently groypers donāt like Charlie Kirk because he wasnāt far right enough or some s***.
But Charlie Kirk is still more far right than a million other celebrities/influencers/politicians a groyper would like even less. If a groyper was going to assassinate someone, Kirk would still be far as hell down that list.
On top of that, a groyper wouldnāt call Charlie Kirk a fascist, either. And definitely wouldnāt engrave that on a bullet. That just doesnāt make any sense for groyper ideology.
Getting testimonies about his political beliefs from friends or family in Utah of all places is not foolproof because most people aren't politically literate and could easily confuse Groypers (heavily ironic and insincere) and what they believe in
I've seen people saying the Bella ciao thing is a reference to some Nick Fuentes/Groyper stuff, "Notices bulge" sounds like an obvious transphobic joke, and "If you read this, you're gay lmao" is the same
Someone also said Nick Fuentes was calling Charlie Kirk a fascist for his beliefs on Israel a month ago, so there is stuff to prove otherwise but more details will come out regardless so the conjecture will be settled
There legitimately isnāt a single ounce of real evidence pointing to him being a groyper.
A friend of his, that was interviewed, said he was a leftist and always shared his leftist political views.
A second friend of his, that was interviewed, said he expressed how much he disliked Donald Trump.
His family members quoted him
as saying that he hated Charlie because Charlie was āfull of hate and spreading hateā. Thatās not why a groyper would hate Charlie Kirk.
The entire theory origin is that apparently groypers donāt like Charlie Kirk because he wasnāt far right enough or some s***.
But Charlie Kirk is still more far right than a million other celebrities/influencers/politicians a groyper would like even less. If a groyper was going to assassinate someone, Kirk would still be far as hell down that list.
On top of that, a groyper wouldnāt call Charlie Kirk a fascist, either. And definitely wouldnāt engrave that on a bullet. That just doesnāt make any sense for groyper ideology.
groypers been stalking charlie for a minute though. they hyperfixated on him. but we dont know for sure. also a lot of whatever you think are "leftist" views arent really all that leftist that we know of. pretty much just general observations without a political bent so far
once again we dont have much to nail down where he stood.
theres a longer interview i think where the HS classmate said they agreed on both disliking each candidate, we dont know where his beliefs went from there because theres no evidence from him other than terminally online memeing.
cahti dropping a new album?
cahti dropping a new album?
Let me ask
groypers been stalking charlie for a minute though. they hyperfixated on him. but we dont know for sure. also a lot of whatever you think are "leftist" views arent really all that leftist that we know of. pretty much just general observations without a political bent so far
once again we dont have much to nail down where he stood.
theres a longer interview i think where the HS classmate said they agreed on both disliking each candidate, we dont know where his beliefs went from there because theres no evidence from him other than terminally online memeing.
Iām not even saying he was definitely a leftist. Iām just saying he wasnāt a groyper. Like, I donāt consider myself a leftist and still find Kirkās views insane and racist. He could have just been a relatively apolitical person that was pissed off by Charlie Kirk.
But based on everything thatās come out, being a groyper makes the least sense
Just called my girlfriend my OWN name
#weird
The message on the third unfired bullet is particularly interesting. The song āBella Ciaoā is an Italian anti-Nazi and anti-fascist folk song from the 1940s.
However, itās also a popular song among āGroypers,ā a group of far-right extremists aligned most popularly with 27-year-old white nationalist streamer Nick Fuentes. This group has historically criticized Kirk from the right, and in what they called āGroyper Wars,ā Fuentes would criticize Kirk and instruct his followers on how to troll Kirkās events.
On Friday afternoon, a screenshot of a āBella Ciaoā remix appearing on a āGroyper Warsā playlist gained more than 2,400 retweets on X.
thedailybeast.com/what-symbols-charlie-kirks-killer-scratched-on-bullets-mean
And yes I get that The Daily Beast is a left wing site. None of this means anything for sure as there are other reports that they interviewed people close to him who have said he had left wing views.
I know its engagement bait but oh my god I hate her, if for nothing more than the fact some people actually buy in to this s***
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1966551879716147540Like what Trump did with Jan 6ers huh?
He's alive???
same thing I said to tomb guard #2 when the stone was moved bruh we getting fired
His wife's speech is so odd
What did she say
There legitimately isnāt a single ounce of real evidence pointing to him being a groyper.
A friend of his, that was interviewed, said he was a leftist and always shared his leftist political views.
A second friend of his, that was interviewed, said he expressed how much he disliked Donald Trump.
His family members quoted him
as saying that he hated Charlie because Charlie was āfull of hate and spreading hateā. Thatās not why a groyper would hate Charlie Kirk.
The entire theory origin is that apparently groypers donāt like Charlie Kirk because he wasnāt far right enough or some s***.
But Charlie Kirk is still more far right than a million other celebrities/influencers/politicians a groyper would like even less. If a groyper was going to assassinate someone, Kirk would still be far as hell down that list.
On top of that, a groyper wouldnāt call Charlie Kirk a fascist, either. And definitely wouldnāt engrave that on a bullet. That just doesnāt make any sense for groyper ideology.
Looking more and more like this is the case honestly
Iām not even saying he was definitely a leftist. Iām just saying he wasnāt a groyper. Like, I donāt consider myself a leftist and still find Kirkās views insane and racist. He could have just been a relatively apolitical person that was pissed off by Charlie Kirk.
But based on everything thatās come out, being a groyper makes the least sense
Groypers and nick fuentes def think heās one of them
Kirkās wife:
ā If you thought my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea what you've unleashed on this country, and the world."
"We will never surrender, ever, ever"