Itās just human nature, nothing so new. Certainly wonāt change anytime soon. For example, the response of the writer quoted below could be anybody today
Lincoln's Assassination thrilled some people in the south.: Certain Confederates reacted with joy⦠South Carolina diarist Emma LeConte's happiness at the news mirrored what some Southerners felt: "Hurrah! Old Abe Lincoln has been assassinated! It may be abstractly wrong to be so jubilant, but I just canāt help it. After all the heaviness and gloom this blow to our enemies comes like a gleam of light."
I realize Iām probably typing way more than anybody wanna read lol
But yeah itās not that lack of empathy is an entirely new phenomenon, but what is new - at least in my eyes - is the pervasiveness of it all.
This is gonna sound like the ramblings of a schizophrenic but bear with me lmao.
With the Internet we can find people to talk about niche interests with that we canāt do in real life. Here we are talking on a music forum. Youāve got subreddits for whatever the hell you can think of. Which can be great when used productively, but when those niche interests are dangerous, s*** gets spooky.
Were there people in the 50ās who thought Howard Unruh (mass shooter) was actually really cool? There probably were. But the odds were incredibly low of them finding each other and being able to share that interest and bond over their idolization of a murderer. And if they shared that opinion out loud with real life people they would get shamed and would eventually either lose the interest or bury it. Or in some cases, maybe act on it.
But with the Internet, these people can find each other, and they can egg each other on and encourage this behavior. And they do this - thereās been plenty of reports of mass shooters bragging that theyāre about to go kill people on 4chan, now thereās talk of different mass shooters having communicated via discord.
And now thanks to social media algorithms, these niche interests arenāt just something you have to go to a chat room and engage in, the algorithm sets it right in front of you. Rage bait gets comments which is engagement so it gets pushed to more people for more engagement. Andrew Tateās entire career model is based on this.
I feel like the retreat from the real world to the digital world is not good for society in general and creates more loners. I think that the desensitization of violence is not good for society. Add in the extreme tribalism thatās been occurring over the last 10 years and the rage bait that gets promoted by social media, and you end up with one nasty ass gumbo.
The Lincoln anecdote is interesting to see but not totally surprising considering how f***ed the morality of the 1800ās already was, and the fact that the south had just been at legitimate war with Lincoln. JFKās assassination wasnāt mourned by everybody either, but you didnāt have comedians going on prime time that night and cracking jokes about it to great ratings and no consequences either.
Alex been glowing harder since he came back from prison
So Trumpās been cleaning out the swamp for almost 8 years and his team is in exec but the DEEP STATE DEMS are still lurking in the shadows lol
This team-sport mentality around politics is so braindead I can't
I donāt do gore, and Ik thereās a lot of gore out there but man curiosity got the best of me and I saw the side angle
Extremely gnarly and graphic stuff.
Never gonna watch. I know I'd hate to see it
That guy mightāve legit been a professional
But what the f*** do I know
Bruh that nigga was more than a professional he was on some Hitman Agent 47 type s***
Incoming āI aināt reading all thatā post, but I really wonder what kind of impact the Internet/social media is having on peopleās state of minds nowadays, and for future generations.
Assassinations and attempts are instantly turned into memes or rage bait for reactions and internet points. This isnāt a right or left issue either, both sides do this. When Paul Pelosi or Melissa Hartman were attacked the far right cracked jokes. The far left was upset that Trump survived and celebrated Kirkās death. Luigi was made into an icon in a surprisingly nearly bipartisan fashion.
There is a known copycat effect when celebrities commit suicide, to the point where the media handles that with delicacy to avoid causing it. I think the same thing occurs with other events, say mass shootings, where the fact that the idea is there and prevalent can influence dangerous people. And I think the internetās reaction to not just this particular incident but the last few are really kinda dangerous. And again, not just the right or left.
Celebrating a murderer or making light of the killing I think gives these people on the edge a motivation where they can mean something. More so than a mass shooting, where they become known and hated. With this, theyāll be at the least acknowledged and at the most praised by the little anonymous Twitter accounts and edge lord streamers.
My concern is that weāll have far left lunatics who see the celebratory Tik toks and the āhe was a piece of s*** rest in pissā tweets who know theyāll get their 15 minutes of fame for doing the same. Or far right lunatics who see this as the start of a war, who know that if they take out some notable left wing politician theyāll be seen as heroes by the far right.
I donāt know, I think society is just kinda f***ed for the foreseeable future. I donāt see how we get any better. Notoriety is the quickest way to celebrity nowadays, good takes donāt get the algorithm working.
End of rant
Why does it have to be some grand internet issue and not that this guy wasnāt just an actual piece of s***? Maybe people not liking him isnāt as performative as u think
Overreacting tbh. I would be posting rip Bozo meme edits during ww2. Humans have done this way before the internet
Responded to another poster with a similar sentiment above ^
And hopefully I am overreacting cause Iāve got no solutions or suggestions. Just think itās a sad state of affairs and that we will see things get a lot worse before it gets better
The shooter 30 seconds after murking kirk

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Thank you
Bruh that nigga was more than a professional he was on some Hitman Agent 47 type s***
After seeing a video of him Im leaning the other way now. Didnt have a better cover than limping with it in his pants. Went back through the same neighborhood he came out of and leaving the gun in the forest.
Idk. It was a good shot though. Maybe aimed for the head and didnt account for bullet drop.
Idk. We won't know unless hes caught.
After seeing a video of him Im leaning the other way now. Didnt have a better cover than limping with it in his pants. Went back through the same neighborhood he came out of and leaving the gun in the forest.
Idk. It was a good shot though. Maybe aimed for the head and didnt account for bullet drop.
Idk. We won't know unless hes caught.
Bullets don't drop that much at that distance. they were aiming for the head, likely with an 100yd zero, and didn't account for holdover. Stress induced yanking of the trigger would explain why the shot pulled to the right.
Been telling yall this wasn't a pro.
imagine having podcasters run the FBI
Kash Patel is just yelling at people to get it done right now with no strategy to lead them
Hes probably findibg grunts that are standing around and screaming at them and pretending like its all on his shoulders.
Why does it have to be some grand internet issue and not that this guy wasnāt just an actual piece of s***? Maybe people not liking him isnāt as performative as u think
Because my post is about the grand internet issue of it all and not the Charlie Kirk of it all.
People not liking Charlie Kirk isnāt performative - he made a living pissing people off, he benefitted from the rage bait algorithms, and ultimately did put a target on himself by choosing to voice opinions that people often found reprehensible (myself included). I donāt support him getting murdered for it, but I also donāt care if somebody doesnāt want to mourn a man that they felt hated them.
I donāt think it can be good for the mental health of the nation to see 1) a guy get murdered, 2) that murder get played a trillion times over then turned into meme edits, 3) small groups of people celebrating said murder, 4) larger groups of people debating that it wasnāt actual that bad of a thing that he was murdered because he was a bad guy.
I think that creates incentive and motivation for lunatics to kill more innocent people. Because, as far as Iām concerned, having horrible opinions should not get you assassinated. Kanye has horrible opinions and I donāt think many of us would celebrate him getting shot to death on live TV.
Confession: I thought this was the Charlie dude until this morning
he was the one I was familiar with. When Charlie got in the game I stopped hate-watching that channel.
I realize Iām probably typing way more than anybody wanna read lol
But yeah itās not that lack of empathy is an entirely new phenomenon, but what is new - at least in my eyes - is the pervasiveness of it all.
This is gonna sound like the ramblings of a schizophrenic but bear with me lmao.
With the Internet we can find people to talk about niche interests with that we canāt do in real life. Here we are talking on a music forum. Youāve got subreddits for whatever the hell you can think of. Which can be great when used productively, but when those niche interests are dangerous, s*** gets spooky.
Were there people in the 50ās who thought Howard Unruh (mass shooter) was actually really cool? There probably were. But the odds were incredibly low of them finding each other and being able to share that interest and bond over their idolization of a murderer. And if they shared that opinion out loud with real life people they would get shamed and would eventually either lose the interest or bury it. Or in some cases, maybe act on it.
But with the Internet, these people can find each other, and they can egg each other on and encourage this behavior. And they do this - thereās been plenty of reports of mass shooters bragging that theyāre about to go kill people on 4chan, now thereās talk of different mass shooters having communicated via discord.
And now thanks to social media algorithms, these niche interests arenāt just something you have to go to a chat room and engage in, the algorithm sets it right in front of you. Rage bait gets comments which is engagement so it gets pushed to more people for more engagement. Andrew Tateās entire career model is based on this.
I feel like the retreat from the real world to the digital world is not good for society in general and creates more loners. I think that the desensitization of violence is not good for society. Add in the extreme tribalism thatās been occurring over the last 10 years and the rage bait that gets promoted by social media, and you end up with one nasty ass gumbo.
The Lincoln anecdote is interesting to see but not totally surprising considering how f***ed the morality of the 1800ās already was, and the fact that the south had just been at legitimate war with Lincoln. JFKās assassination wasnāt mourned by everybody either, but you didnāt have comedians going on prime time that night and cracking jokes about it to great ratings and no consequences either.
This conversation is entirely too intelligent for the discourse on this site lol
Incoming āI aināt reading all thatā post, but I really wonder what kind of impact the Internet/social media is having on peopleās state of minds nowadays, and for future generations.
Assassinations and attempts are instantly turned into memes or rage bait for reactions and internet points. This isnāt a right or left issue either, both sides do this. When Paul Pelosi or Melissa Hartman were attacked the far right cracked jokes. The far left was upset that Trump survived and celebrated Kirkās death. Luigi was made into an icon in a surprisingly nearly bipartisan fashion.
There is a known copycat effect when celebrities commit suicide, to the point where the media handles that with delicacy to avoid causing it. I think the same thing occurs with other events, say mass shootings, where the fact that the idea is there and prevalent can influence dangerous people. And I think the internetās reaction to not just this particular incident but the last few are really kinda dangerous. And again, not just the right or left.
Celebrating a murderer or making light of the killing I think gives these people on the edge a motivation where they can mean something. More so than a mass shooting, where they become known and hated. With this, theyāll be at the least acknowledged and at the most praised by the little anonymous Twitter accounts and edge lord streamers.
My concern is that weāll have far left lunatics who see the celebratory Tik toks and the āhe was a piece of s*** rest in pissā tweets who know theyāll get their 15 minutes of fame for doing the same. Or far right lunatics who see this as the start of a war, who know that if they take out some notable left wing politician theyāll be seen as heroes by the far right.
I donāt know, I think society is just kinda f***ed for the foreseeable future. I donāt see how we get any better. Notoriety is the quickest way to celebrity nowadays, good takes donāt get the algorithm working.
End of rant
agreed
This guy is a great follow btw
how did he pull her fr
Donāt let anyone make you feel like a bad person for feeling relief that Charlie is no more.
Tolerance, for its own sake, cannot tolerate intolerance.
This guy is a great follow btw

hours!
lol
Isnāt Adin Jewish?
My girl started her Kirk smh
This the only place you can let off jokes about while hating everyone
Any news btw