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  • notbrock

    Them saying “it’s only a hit because…” is just dumb as f***

    Don’t get me wrong, It being a diss track definitely helped but you don’t get songs as big as Like That and Not Like Us solely because they’re disses

    If that’s the case then why didnt TSOA break records? Why is Meet The Grahams not the biggest song of the year?

    They already know it’s a culmination of a lot of things. It’s more eyes being on the song, it’s Kendrick first west coast sounding bop record, it’s him dancing on Drake, it’s also him uniting the coast.

    They want us to focus on the Drake aspect because Drake lost. Only losers discuss the motivation of the winner lol.

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    notbrock

    Them saying “it’s only a hit because…” is just dumb as f***

    Don’t get me wrong, It being a diss track definitely helped but you don’t get songs as big as Like That and Not Like Us solely because they’re disses

    If that’s the case then why didnt TSOA break records? Why is Meet The Grahams not the biggest song of the year?

    yeah none of those tracks are only a hit bc of drake. kenny did his thing and it's kind of delusional to deny that.

    but at the same time it's true that the biggest rap songs out rn are either by drake or about drake and that does stand for something. and it's true that beefing w drake has brought kenny back to major commercial success for the first time since black panther album (6 years ago).

    the answer to the second half of ur post is kind of obvious. smaller artist beefing w bigger artist = boost for the smaller artist, not a boost for the bigger artist.

  • May 26, 2024
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    barry dillon
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    yeah none of those tracks are only a hit bc of drake. kenny did his thing and it's kind of delusional to deny that.

    but at the same time it's true that the biggest rap songs out rn are either by drake or about drake and that does stand for something. and it's true that beefing w drake has brought kenny back to major commercial success for the first time since black panther album (6 years ago).

    the answer to the second half of ur post is kind of obvious. smaller artist beefing w bigger artist = boost for the smaller artist, not a boost for the bigger artist.

    Mr morale was a success

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    Free YoungBoy

    Mr morale was a success

    took 5 years making the album. didn't even crack 300k first week. not what i would call a major commercial success.

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    barry dillon

    took 5 years making the album. didn't even crack 300k first week. not what i would call a major commercial success.

    It’s 2x plat and he did a world tour off it. The first week numbers it did wasn’t even bad

  • May 26, 2024
    NewCopeJustDropped

    I’m not reading anything you wrote and have no interest in arguing in good faith with you. You got it bro. You’re completely right.

    "yes im ignorant and incoherent, but im proud of it!"

  • May 26, 2024
    Free YoungBoy

    It’s 2x plat and he did a world tour off it. The first week numbers it did wasn’t even bad

    u know as well as i do that kendrick tour success had more to do w the strength of his past discog and less to do w mr morale than u are letting on.

    im sure he's eating good. kendrick is objectively successful. but in terms of major commercial success, and i mean drake level success, he hasn't had that since damn, maybe black panther album if ur generous. it took beefing w drake to get back there. that's just objectively true.

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    barry dillon

    took 5 years making the album. didn't even crack 300k first week. not what i would call a major commercial success.

    But for the type of music it was those are great numbers. I feel the same way about HN, It was a surprise drop house album, Doing over 200k for that is good

    You don’t think Kendrick could’ve made something like Humble? Could’ve got some bigger name features? Or just overall made a more palatable album?

    It did 100k less than FATD. Do you think if FATD didn’t have SZA, Yeat and Cole it still would’ve done 400k or would it look closer to Morale numbers?

  • notbrock

    But for the type of music it was those are great numbers. I feel the same way about HN, It was a surprise drop house album, Doing over 200k for that is good

    You don’t think Kendrick could’ve made something like Humble? Could’ve got some bigger name features? Or just overall made a more palatable album?

    It did 100k less than FATD. Do you think if FATD didn’t have SZA, Yeat and Cole it still would’ve done 400k or would it look closer to Morale numbers?

    You’re wasting your time bro.

    No Drake diss has ever gonna number one. Neither has the song of any other person dissing him.

    Let them believe what they want. Kendrick is number one now because he decided to make a bop the west coast could step to.

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    Kendrick has 5 diss records. Two went number one and one went number three
    Drake has 7 diss records and none of them went number one or higher than 7.

    Drake has about 6 diss records going at him and none of them went number one

    The only difference between these scenarios is Kendrick being involved.

    It’s his stimulus

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    notbrock

    But for the type of music it was those are great numbers. I feel the same way about HN, It was a surprise drop house album, Doing over 200k for that is good

    You don’t think Kendrick could’ve made something like Humble? Could’ve got some bigger name features? Or just overall made a more palatable album?

    It did 100k less than FATD. Do you think if FATD didn’t have SZA, Yeat and Cole it still would’ve done 400k or would it look closer to Morale numbers?

    ok first question. i gotta say i don't know. it's totally possible kendrick still has it in him to make another humble type track. like maybe he could have turned morale into a major success w different features and more palatable songs. but he didn't go for that so idk. and his only major success since then has come from this beef, so it's not like he's proven he still has that solo hitmaker ability.

    second question. honestly, yes. I think drake is a very big name, and i think he's undoubtedly much larger than SZA, Yeat, or Cole. not to mention i only rly saw ppl complaining abt yeat and sza verses, so it would've been cole singlehandedly blessing the album w an extra 100k first week if ur theory was true. and that seems like a reach idk.

  • May 26, 2024
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    NewCopeJustDropped

    Kendrick has 5 diss records. Two went number one and one went number three
    Drake has 7 diss records and none of them went number one or higher than 7.

    Drake has about 6 diss records going at him and none of them went number one

    The only difference between these scenarios is Kendrick being involved.

    It’s his stimulus

    only 2 diss records? lol they pretending MTG doesn't exist

  • Had to block that nigga. He keeps trying to talk to me lol

  • May 26, 2024
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    barry dillon

    only 2 diss records? lol they pretending MTG doesn't exist

    You had me read that post like five times looking for the 2

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    blocked at the mention of MTG

    kendrick stans rly memory holed that s*** omg

  • May 26, 2024
    Prosper

    You had me read that post like five times looking for the 2

    he edited lol

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    barry dillon

    kendrick is a legacy act. ppl bought those tour tickets bc they loved gkmc or tpab or damn or wtv. ppl were not buying those tickets to see any morale songs done live lol.

    and yeah u could probably say that abt drake too. but let's not act like fatd didn't do 400k fw. guy is obviously still a big deal and a bigger commercial force than kendrick

    ppl were not buying those tickets to see any morale songs done live

    Source trust me bro

  • May 26, 2024
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    Smoofer

    ppl were not buying those tickets to see any morale songs done live

    Source trust me bro

    u know im right lol

  • May 26, 2024
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    barry dillon

    u know im right lol

    It was the tour for that album lmao

  • May 26, 2024

    This thread really turned into the drake beef thread overnight

    Ain't no one talking about the mid ass song lol

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    Smoofer

    It was the tour for that album lmao

    the album in question being mr morale...

  • May 26, 2024
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    barry dillon

    the album in question being mr morale...

    Right.. he toured for that album lol. You think no one wanted to go to that for songs on that album?

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    barry dillon

    ok first question. i gotta say i don't know. it's totally possible kendrick still has it in him to make another humble type track. like maybe he could have turned morale into a major success w different features and more palatable songs. but he didn't go for that so idk. and his only major success since then has come from this beef, so it's not like he's proven he still has that solo hitmaker ability.

    second question. honestly, yes. I think drake is a very big name, and i think he's undoubtedly much larger than SZA, Yeat, or Cole. not to mention i only rly saw ppl complaining abt yeat and sza verses, so it would've been cole singlehandedly blessing the album w an extra 100k first week if ur theory was true. and that seems like a reach idk.

    Ok well idc if you saw people complaining. Those are objectively the biggest songs on the album

    You’re also saying you don’t know if big names would’ve helped sales for Morale but if FATD didn’t have big name features it still would’ve done 400k. Lmao bro what?

    Also why is Kendrick just talking about Drake enough to get him multiple hits but Drakes own actual solo songs ain’t doing numbers like that? Your saying Drakes name is so big that just dissing him helps get a hit but he himself couldn’t get a hit with his own music? Make it make sense

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    notbrock

    Ok well idc if you saw people complaining. Those are objectively the biggest songs on the album

    You’re also saying you don’t know if big names would’ve helped sales for Morale but if FATD didn’t have big name features it still would’ve done 400k. Lmao bro what?

    Also why is Kendrick just talking about Drake enough to get him multiple hits but Drakes own actual solo songs ain’t doing numbers like that? Your saying Drakes name is so big that just dissing him helps get a hit but he himself couldn’t get a hit with his own music? Make it make sense

    im not saying idk if big names would have helped w mr morale. like objectively i guess i don't know bc it didn't happen, so it's technically just conjecture. but yeah big features would probably have helped the sales. which is what i said right? am i tripping?

    also the "FATD sales were carried by the features" angle is weak and u know it lol. drake is the most streamed rapper alive obviously an album from him w a good rollout will do big numbers.

    for the last part of ur post, the answer is simple. Drake is obviously still a massive artist and celebrity, and still very talked about, but in recent years the trend has been to hate on drake. of course drake himself cant cash in on that negative attention as well as kendrick can.

  • May 26, 2024
    Smoofer

    Right.. he toured for that album lol. You think no one wanted to go to that for songs on that album?

    yes lol come on now