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    Using astrology as a calendar and s*** relating to time is cool. Yes, specific star signs are more visible during a certain period of the year. Yes the moon does have its own scheduled patterns. It makes sense to come up with a calendar using astrology. But using that s*** in an attempt to determine one's personality, emotions, mannerisms is absolutely ridiculous. The human brain (I would hope) is way too complex to be figured out by stars.

  • Jan 31, 2021
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    Ooo

    Yet if you’re well versed in astrology of zodiac signs people scoff at you because they look at some teen magazine or internet zodiac meanings. Commercialization once again brings down another very exquisite way of life.
    “Horoscopes are vague and can be applied to anything”

    I don’t think that. Is it Vauge or are we as people simply not as complex as we think? I think that’s more believable than the opposite.

    Does the written out thought just bring out your true thoughts that are suppressed due to the climate society we live in? Your true self emerges. All out realities are unique yet connected

    I mean if you can tell me in a detailed way how astrology gets its results then I’ll give it more credit

  • Smacked Voodoo

    Using astrology as a calendar and s*** relating to time is cool. Yes, specific star signs are more visible during a certain period of the year. Yes the moon does have its own scheduled patterns. It makes sense to come up with a calendar using astrology. But using that s*** in an attempt to determine one's personality, emotions, mannerisms is absolutely ridiculous. The human brain (I would hope) is way too complex to be figured out by stars.

    the human brain is one with the stars fym

  • OP
    Jan 31, 2021
    Noir

    Astrology doesn't have to be scientific nor "real" for it to have worth to individuals. This issue is the crux of many religious debates.

    The problem I have is misinterpreting what is scientific while implying that astrology has at least some scientific qualities to it (say, a provable, systematic internal process that offers replicable real world results) when it does not.

    But yeah I have no issue with astrology as a concept, only the people who sell it as something it isn't.

    I don’t believe many things in this earth are explainable and that’s ok. People always want tangible proof when that just won’t happen. They will accept science but scoff at the possiblity of astrology. And when bringing up the past they act like we are so far advanced that it’s outlandish for us to believe it even tho we’ve seen societies and things here that surpass even our knowledge

    I just don’t understand that

  • OP
    Jan 31, 2021
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    ASAKI

    You don't know what you have, or that people tell you why you have it. You assume that you can at least trust your own mind which lets you assume you have an adequate recollection of what you have, and that the ideas you have about why that is the case came from other people.

    Science is not a separate entity that is far and away from the common folk. Science is the natural result of YOUR logic and reasoning processes. The scientific community is the result of humans logically and reasonably testing their hypotheses, just as you are right now. They're just very good at it.

    Science proceeds by stating assumptions upon which to base a question. The fact that there is a scientific community necessitates the need for shared assumptions. The idea that these assumptions are tested to the best ability of the community is what gives science its credibility.

    Science demands that the community stop sacrificing 30 virgins every year, not because of morality or even as a means to argue for an end to the practice, but just to see what happens. The risk of losing the abundance of food might be of concern to the scientists, but that's in their capacity as members of the community, not in their capacity as scientists.

    Because of that, it is, in fact, the opposite of what you're claiming. Science doesn't cloud our reality, it tests what our reality can be. A community has been sacrificing 30 virgins forever because they believe it to be right, but science argues "Is this truly our reality?"

    Our scientific endeavors may cause actions that are irreversible. But not committing to scientific endeavors is equally concluding. For example, let's regard climate change. Scientific theories and actions based in science may cause irreversible happenings that end up saving the Earth. But non-scientific hypotheses and actions may end up destroying it. Both are irreversible, but our conclusions are as opposed as ever, with the scientific result being tested to save us.

    Nicely said. I don’t think we should always think logically. We don’t really have a logical existence.

    And as far as destroying us what about technology? A.I.? Like bombs are natural. Yes we found the equation but we didn’t create it from thin air. So it would be nature correct? Which is connected to science?

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    Ooo

    Yet if you’re well versed in astrology of zodiac signs people scoff at you because they look at some teen magazine or internet zodiac meanings. Commercialization once again brings down another very exquisite way of life.
    “Horoscopes are vague and can be applied to anything”

    I don’t think that. Is it Vauge or are we as people simply not as complex as we think? I think that’s more believable than the opposite.

    Does the written out thought just bring out your true thoughts that are suppressed due to the climate society we live in? Your true self emerges. All out realities are unique yet connected

    Astrology is based on nothing

  • Jan 31, 2021

    nothing in science is a fact but the idea of a theory is something that many people who are educated and are reputable have agreed upon

    Astrology doesn't have any such standing in comparison. The kinda s*** you're spewing is stupid because you try to make a case that people who have dedicated their lives into learning and studying what they research to establish these theories are now on equal footing with climate change denying wackos and anti vax people who just throw around what-aboutisms all day and have never spent time in their lives actually researching s***. All you have to do is look at the credibility of the two sides before you quickly realize why science is more respected than these counter culture beliefs

  • Jan 31, 2021
    Coleman

    so can you explain how the position of the earth and the sun in relation to other stars would determine someone’s personality or predict the future? or why these things are wrong all the f***ing time?

    R u a scorpio? I don’t like ur tone

  • Jan 31, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    Using astrology as a calendar and s*** relating to time is cool. Yes, specific star signs are more visible during a certain period of the year. Yes the moon does have its own scheduled patterns. It makes sense to come up with a calendar using astrology. But using that s*** in an attempt to determine one's personality, emotions, mannerisms is absolutely ridiculous. The human brain (I would hope) is way too complex to be figured out by stars.

    Exactly what a capricorn would say

  • Jan 31, 2021
    yjs

    i hate that this makes me laugh it really shouldn't but it does

  • Jan 31, 2021

    Should've known this would be an astrology thread

  • Jan 31, 2021

    it's s*** like this that gives astrology a bad name. Like you could read about it and enjoy it as a hobby, but like using it as a way to demean science just makes you look dumb

  • Jan 31, 2021
    red eagle

    Should ppl like OP be allowed to vote?

  • Jan 31, 2021
    Ooo

    Some of the most intelligent people believed in astrology

    Name one.

  • Jan 31, 2021

    just cause a word ends in - ology doesn't mean the practice is a science

    if the practice uses the scientific method correctly then it's a science

  • OP
    Jan 31, 2021
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    air

    Astrology is based on nothing

    What makes you say this

  • OP
    Jan 31, 2021
    MM6 Moka

    I mean if you can tell me in a detailed way how astrology gets its results then I’ll give it more credit

    I don’t believe things have to be logical to exist

  • Jan 31, 2021

    I’m here to help. You helped me earlier

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    @op you think astrology is science?

  • OP
    Jan 31, 2021
    rayray

    @op you think astrology is science?

    I just don’t understand why science is taken for fact at face value while astrology gets so much hate and nitpicking

  • Jan 31, 2021
    Ooo

    What makes you say this

    being a taurus

  • Jan 31, 2021

    Science is an effort that tries to build on facts and logic. Obviously "theories" aren't fact as the name implies, however scientific theories aren't the same and use actual tested evidences that comes to a conclusive truth.

    Astrology is just part of a mystic belief system.

  • Jan 31, 2021
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    commonwrongdoer

    you think gravity is a theory?

    actually we know less about gravity than most things

  • Jan 31, 2021
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    DVLPR

    What ancient civilizations? Are we sure we’re not purposely misinterpreting their beliefs just so we can fit them into modern quantum theories?

    to answer your question, ideologies associated with eastern mysticism are a good starting point. hinduism, buddhism, etc.

    i'm more than a little confused by this comment though, given that 1. I never claimed to be in full agreement with this line of argument, although I understand and respect where it's coming from

    2. the giants of quantum physics were almost all cognizant of the potential linkage between their insights and these belief systems ... bohr, planck, etc.

    who are you - someone who presumably doesn't even have a basic background in the field - to be dismissive without even making an actual argument?

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