Oct 4, 2025·2 replieshow did bro even get exposure/noticed in the first place? no clue how the underground in china works tbh
Oct 4, 2025
beflygelt@Feralmutantes @Itajime @KState @bakedinatlanta @KIR @xingu come over here y'all 🫡
this the OG jack + bloodz thread
- Oct 4, 2025·1 replyvingu
how did bro even get exposure/noticed in the first place? no clue how the underground in china works tbh
bloodz or jack?
bloodz built a network as promoter basically I think and by being crazy tapped in w music and linking w underground artists all over, slowly building a profile
the latter kinda how jack did it too but then also got a big push from that viral tweet
Oct 4, 2025·1 replyvinguhow did bro even get exposure/noticed in the first place? no clue how the underground in china works tbh
i heard of him through tek lintowe who was in shed theory
i dunno how they linked up exactly but im pretty sure tek lived in china for a while or at least stayed there for an extended period
Oct 4, 2025late but in
Oct 4, 2025·1 replyICEMAN KIRi heard of him through tek lintowe who was in shed theory
i dunno how they linked up exactly but im pretty sure tek lived in china for a while or at least stayed there for an extended period
yeah tek met up with him for a week or 2
Oct 4, 2025·1 replyishyeah tek met up with him for a week or 2
That’s when i started listening when they made mortified
- Oct 4, 2025VIRGILSINTHAGROUND
That’s when i started listening when they made mortified
it was through bloodzboi sc following for me
- Oct 4, 2025·1 reply
i remember in a short interview that jack said theres chinese 2hollis clones, did anybody figure out who they were yet?
- Oct 4, 2025ish
i remember in a short interview that jack said theres chinese 2hollis clones, did anybody figure out who they were yet?
That sounds fire
- Oct 4, 2025·2 repliesbeflygelt
bloodz or jack?
bloodz built a network as promoter basically I think and by being crazy tapped in w music and linking w underground artists all over, slowly building a profile
the latter kinda how jack did it too but then also got a big push from that viral tweet
viral tweet? also bro got james ferraro prod?? that's an insane connection
Oct 4, 2025vinguviral tweet? also bro got james ferraro prod?? that's an insane connection
Chinese BLADEE
- Oct 4, 2025beflygelt
Bloodz protégé jackzebra went viral on twitter the other day as "Chinese Bladee" lol
https://twitter.com/love_____bug/status/1856106563578277958wasn't so happy to blow up through an ignorant meme like that... but the good thing is it ended w him finally getting P4k review treatment and it's one of the best things ever written on the Chinese rap scene (courtesy of the amazing James Gui - who also quoted and linked my bloodzboi interview in a bandcamp daily article last year)
https://twitter.com/manobells/status/1859236274957168775https://twitter.com/misterminsoo/status/1859221255745896642 - Oct 4, 2025·2 repliesvingu
viral tweet? also bro got james ferraro prod?? that's an insane connection
quoted above
I actually know from bloodz that James Ferraro started following jack last November, shortly after he went viral lmaoafter Ferraro worked w Bladee so much recently it actually weirdly makes sense. agree that it's a headspin, but jack is def no stranger to working w producers way out of left-field
they're both just big music nerds themselves. bloodz is like easily one of the most tapped-in ppl I know, not at all just w rap but all kinds of underground music
- Oct 4, 2025·1 replybeflygelt
quoted above
I actually know from bloodz that James Ferraro started following jack last November, shortly after he went viral lmaoafter Ferraro worked w Bladee so much recently it actually weirdly makes sense. agree that it's a headspin, but jack is def no stranger to working w producers way out of left-field
they're both just big music nerds themselves. bloodz is like easily one of the most tapped-in ppl I know, not at all just w rap but all kinds of underground music
would you happen to know with my latest post in here
- Oct 4, 2025·1 replyish
would you happen to know with my latest post in here
lol nah, but can ask bloodz. I also asked him b4 about pro-gov chinese propaganda rappers and he just doesn't rly keep those names cause the music is ass
- Oct 4, 2025·1 replybeflygelt
quoted above
I actually know from bloodz that James Ferraro started following jack last November, shortly after he went viral lmaoafter Ferraro worked w Bladee so much recently it actually weirdly makes sense. agree that it's a headspin, but jack is def no stranger to working w producers way out of left-field
they're both just big music nerds themselves. bloodz is like easily one of the most tapped-in ppl I know, not at all just w rap but all kinds of underground music
didn't even know that ferraro worked with bladee. guess i've been pretty tapped out of this for a while. so this bloodz dude is a promoter have somehow linked all these people together?
i also ask because im just curious how anybody gets on in a landscape like this tbh. wondering how an artist like for example the one i just made a thread on arisumego or some other truly talented left field true artist underground mf can make it happen without having to post slop to tiktok every day or something
- Oct 4, 2025·edited·1 replyvingu
didn't even know that ferraro worked with bladee. guess i've been pretty tapped out of this for a while. so this bloodz dude is a promoter have somehow linked all these people together?
i also ask because im just curious how anybody gets on in a landscape like this tbh. wondering how an artist like for example the one i just made a thread on arisumego or some other truly talented left field true artist underground mf can make it happen without having to post slop to tiktok every day or something
ah nah bloodz is a rapper/singer and DJ, he was even part of a kind of huge youtube comedy rap group as a teen but then his more serious music stuff started when he worked for this club in Beijing and organized gigs for Lucki in 2015 for example. he's The OG of chinese cloud rap tbh
more info in the interview I did w him here
rateyourmusic.com/feature/sonemic-interview-bloodz-boi (he actually recs a 2011 Ferraro cloud rap project as Bebetune$ at the end here)and for Ferraro x Bladee yh he worked a bunch on Cold Visions and then also made this video game which features interactive poetry by Bladee which got sponsored by f***ing Microsoft lmao
- Oct 4, 2025·1 replybeflygelt
ah nah bloodz is a rapper/singer and DJ, he was even part of a kind of huge youtube comedy rap group as a teen but then his more serious music stuff started when he worked for this club in Beijing and organized gigs for Lucki in 2015 for example. he's The OG of chinese cloud rap tbh
more info in the interview I did w him here
https://rateyourmusic.com/feature/sonemic-interview-bloodz-boi/ (he actually recs a 2011 Ferraro cloud rap project as Bebetune$ at the end here)and for Ferraro x Bladee yh he worked a bunch on Cold Visions and then also made this video game which features interactive poetry by Bladee which got sponsored by f***ing Microsoft lmao
!https://youtu.be/ZolsuToCfkoIt’s crazy how much good will these 2 have fostered , they used ai and no 1 gave a single f***
- Oct 4, 2025END OF THE ROADBOY
It’s crazy how much good will these 2 have fostered , they used ai and no 1 gave a single f***
u want them to be cancelled for that lol?
the AI hateboner crowd lost the thread imo cause this is another example of how it can be used creatively. as I understand it Bladee wrote a lot of poetry for the game, the AI is only there to make the material they crafted by hand interactive. it's just another tool available to you, sure you can use it in lazy ways and get slop results, but you can also put work into it and get very unique and interesting results.
if u rly hate AI you should also stop using google which automatically compiles you search results. I don't think you realize how many things nowadays are automated.
one of the best albums of 2023 also used AI vocals, but the point was that the artist put in tons of work in hand-feeding the machine selected stuff to get specific results. even feeding results back to itself to hone in on the specific sounds that sound uncanny valley. vocals that would be impossible to make any other way (probably wouldn't even be possible anymore today because they got so much better)
leegamble.bandcamp.com/album/models - Oct 4, 2025beflygelt
lol nah, but can ask bloodz. I also asked him b4 about pro-gov chinese propaganda rappers and he just doesn't rly keep those names cause the music is ass
would you be willing to do that if you can? I would really appreciate it
Oct 4, 2025beflygeltJack surf gang tape out now
James Ferraro prod on 4 songs, also Glasear, Woesum and ofc some Evilgiane, Elipropperrhttps://surfgangrecords.ffm.to/hunchedjackmixtape
in asf gotta check this out
Oct 5, 2025Listening rn. Idk how to feel about this
- Oct 5, 2025·1 reply
Nvm I get it now
- Oct 5, 2025Willie Wildcat
Nvm I get it now
