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  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Goo
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rat_zakJj6k

    If the mainstream still f***ed with R&B this song would've been huge

    Mainstream loves R&B bro, Jhene just did 150 with barely any promo and a few self released singles.

    She made her self easy to talk about, y'all gotta understand its more to this industry than the quality of the music alone, Miguels music is amazing btw.

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Sinewave

    Fr lol most Frank and Weeknd stans literally don’t listen to any other RNB lmao it’s weird

    because frank and the weeknd don't even rlly make r&b anymore lol they're always making different s***

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Flosh

    Lenny’s image > his music. I really tried to get into his music and it never clicked.

    Love a few songs by Lenny but I never heard an album.

    Miguel definitely looks up to him though.

    Both look up to Prince, lol.

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    AP3

    You expect to have a real conversation about r&b in a Frank vs Weeknd thread

  • Goo

    Love a few songs by Lenny but I never heard an album.

    Miguel definitely looks up to him though.

    Both look up to Prince, lol.

    You gotta listen to mama said

    This s*** is goat

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    empty

    because frank and the weeknd don't even rlly make r&b anymore lol they're always making different s***

    That’s fine but that’s exactly why their stans need to stop acting like they’re the kings of RnB or some s*** lol.

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Goo
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rat_zakJj6k

    If the mainstream still f***ed with R&B this song would've been huge

    His "sound" is impeccable. He made R&B for a very specific and troubled era.

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Slimane

    Mainstream loves R&B bro, Jhene just did 150 with barely any promo and a few self released singles.

    She made her self easy to talk about, y'all gotta understand its more to this industry than the quality of the music alone, Miguels music is amazing btw.

    Jhene is really connected with the hip hop world tho

    She had feats like Big Sean and Future on her album

    And she makes the whispery type of alt R&B that's currently popular

  • Mar 20, 2020
    Sinewave

    That’s fine but that’s exactly why their stans need to stop acting like they’re the kings of RnB or some s*** lol.

    ya this kinda fax

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    STUFF

    I got hella pushback for mentioning Miguel in that "Frank vs Weeknd" thread and mentioning he outperformed them as an R&B artist during when all 3 and Alt-R&B/Neo-Soul were all huge.

    Miguel is an infinitely better and more talented artist/vocalist. Not even close. KTT doesn't like actual music

    Breezy/Miguel/Usher/Kells Real R&B

  • Mar 20, 2020
    Sinewave

    He’s much better than the Weeknd and Frank Ocean

  • Mar 20, 2020
    cole breezy
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    Miguel is an infinitely better and more talented artist/vocalist. Not even close. KTT doesn't like actual music

    Breezy/Miguel/Usher/Kells Real R&B

  • Mar 20, 2020
    Slimane

    Mainstream loves R&B bro, Jhene just did 150 with barely any promo and a few self released singles.

    She made her self easy to talk about, y'all gotta understand its more to this industry than the quality of the music alone, Miguels music is amazing btw.

    Btw Sky Walker by Miguel was leaning towards the mainstream and ofc it was a smash

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Goo

    Jhene is really connected with the hip hop world tho

    She had feats like Big Sean and Future on her album

    And she makes the whispery type of alt R&B that's currently popular

    And Miguel isnt? He was on one of the biggest songs on the Rhythmic charts this year.

    He has some of the most consistenyl charting collabs as a feature artists, thats not the reason why he's not being talked about with the others.

  • STUFF

    I remember this and I believe it was something off Young & Free which was shelved by Black Ice. The timing is a lot off but I think he was just showcasing old material that had nothing to do with All I Want Is You.

    I think it's crazy he could release this now and it would still sound fresh lol

    Thanks that's such a shame I don't get why it never released

  • Slimane

    Mainstream loves R&B bro, Jhene just did 150 with barely any promo and a few self released singles.

    She made her self easy to talk about, y'all gotta understand its more to this industry than the quality of the music alone, Miguels music is amazing btw.

    R&b doesn’t get as much love as it used to.

    R&b was the dominant sound along with rock in the late 80s and 90s. You had Janet, Bobby, r Kelly, jodeci, Boyz II Men, ginuwine, etc all doing crazy numbers in r&b. Now rap is the only thing that is really dominant

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Slimane

    Mainstream loves R&B bro, Jhene just did 150 with barely any promo and a few self released singles.

    She made her self easy to talk about, y'all gotta understand its more to this industry than the quality of the music alone, Miguels music is amazing btw.

    She's a woman.

    Do we have many popular men in R&B?

  • Mar 20, 2020
    cole breezy

    Miguel is an infinitely better and more talented artist/vocalist. Not even close. KTT doesn't like actual music

    Breezy/Miguel/Usher/Kells Real R&B

    i mean frank is more of a singer-songwriter with a lot of focus on songwriting but ktt is dumb and likes to act like he's some mindblowing vocalist

  • Mar 20, 2020
    STUFF

    She's a woman.

    Do we have many popular men in R&B?

    Brent, not a lot of numbers, but thats bcause he's still growing.

    But check on any social media and everyon will say his last project was amazing, and its still in rotation.

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Slimane

    And Miguel isnt? He was on one of the biggest songs on the Rhythmic charts this year.

    He has some of the most consistenyl charting collabs as a feature artists, thats not the reason why he's not being talked about with the others.

    His sound and image are deeply rooted in the 80's/90's/00's. Even Usher and Maxwell ain't as popular as they used to be, fam

    Plus he hasn't been doing features for rappers like he used to

    Someone like Miguel would've been wayyy bigger in any other decade

  • Mar 20, 2020
    STUFF

    Now you know better than that

  • Mar 20, 2020
    Sinewave

    Fr lol most Frank and Weeknd stans literally don’t listen to any other RNB lmao it’s weird

    That’s why I don’t take any of their opinions seriously

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    STUFF

    She's a woman.

    Do we have many popular men in R&B?

    Chris Brown had one of the most popular albums and songs of 2019. But he also crosses over to Pop and Rap a lot so I can see why people may not see him as such

  • Mar 20, 2020
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    Goo

    His sound and image are deeply rooted in the 80's/90's/00's. Even Usher and Maxwell ain't as popular as they used to be, fam

    Plus he hasn't been doing features for rappers like he used to

    Someone like Miguel would've been wayyy bigger in any other decade

    When TGT were not popular in 2013, I knew R&B had changed into something else. There was no chance for Miguel being popular.

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