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  • Jan 28, 2021
    innuendo

    yeh i was just going on a tangent thinking about ovo signees cause you were talking about dvsn

    OVO threw up billboards and did a ton of promo it’s just they’re not meant to blow up

    Party might, majid might, I think Daniel might be the best shot now, but none are huge

  • Jan 28, 2021
    huey p rxcan

    how is appreciating his wide array of influence a discredit to him...

    I think that’s more in response to the people chalking his music out to be “MJ Karaoke music”

  • Jan 28, 2021
    huey p rxcan

    how is appreciating his wide array of influence a discredit to him...

    It’s way more patronizing to try to cram his vast catalog into one box imo

  • Kdogone

    What KTT know about Kem tho?

    heat

  • Jan 28, 2021
    huey p rxcan

    abel isn’t r&b

    trilogy snd kissland are dark wave

    BBTM literally has production from one of the most successful pop producers. you can tell max martin is all over that record. it’s a f***ing pop record

    name one r&b song on starboy h&m music bro, the lead singles are more electronic than anything they’re LITERALLY PRODUCED BY DAFT F***ING PUNK

    MDM is the closest to r&b but even then it still has more dark wave and electronic influence than anything else.

    you don’t know what you’re talking about bro bryson tiller is infinitely more r&b than abel and that’s fine.

    Thank you

    Trilogy and mdm are the last in herently rnb music he’s made and those records are a million times more out there than anything sonder or dvsn makes so what exactly makes him RnB and not another artist like idk the XX

    Bcus the xx at this point be making some soulful ass bassy songs, last record was filled with it

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    huey p rxcan

    bro these niggas need to listen to a brandy, darnell jones, ginuwine record or something they lost fr fr

    To be fair, any sound labeled as rnb can be rnb, like the genres changed so much

    Even before I feel like they woulda called like Stevie wonder rnb. I’m surprised MJ isn’t known as rnb cause his music is way more that than pop

  • Jan 28, 2021

    What more of a push do you need? If I'm not mistaken the artist you mentioned in the op have great commercial success. I remember reading an article that Chilombo was platinum a while back.

    Times has changed man

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    Maartins

    Ok so frank dropped one “inherently” rnb type project a decade ago since then he’s only dabbled in it occasionally here and there....and that makes him different from kevin parker how exactly?

    You’re being completely arbitrary

    Abel dropped multiple alternative rnb projects almost a decade ago sure but his last what 3-4 records have been pop, electronic s*** right? Ive listened to both extensively and imma just tell yk there is virtually no difference in the style of music the xx and abel make. None. Both play with elements of indie house pop rnb and electronic but that doesn’t make EITHER RnB artists.

    Brent faiyaz is an RnB artist, 6lack is an RnB artist, dvsn etc i can go on

    Also james blake is virtually identical to frank too in the kind of style of music they make intrinsically and it aint RnB bro

    Im all for you saying ok lets widen the definition of what Rnb means especially since it’s been the most influential genre in basically every other genre of music but none of the above artists I mentioned would call themselves “RnB” which is what the thread is talking about.

    Because Kevin Parker started a f***ing psychedelic rock project while Frank is known as an R&B artist, it's not like Blonde doesn't have R&B songs. CO is traditional R&B first before anything else and here you are calling him not R&B. I saw your comments pages ago discrediting traditional R&B, idk why I'm even talking to you.

    The XX is an indie band that plays with a bunch of different sounds, Weeknd basically sings in a soulful way in almost every song. Just because he doesn't sing on contemporary slick R&B 2000s production doesn't make him not R&B.

    Brent, 6lack and DVSN are all alternative r&b, but they don't go away from their roots, which is why they are still called r&b instead of anything else.

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    Ooo

    What the hell are you talking about

    you posted the RnB tag in currents like it was some got ya

  • FREE 💜
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    Brent soon

  • Jan 28, 2021
    Zezima

    Yeah no hate to cb, he a legend no doubt but his name and clout carries him more than the quality of his actual music at this point, with respects to a few stand out tracks here and there.

    Chris brown is incapable of delivering a true R&b classic album outside of maybe his debut which was still more pop R&b than anything.

    Miguel is best hope for that classic R&b artist feel.

    No disrespect to your view but I feel like that’s soft hating

    R&B has evolved, he’s apart of the reason it has.

    Not only is an above average vocalist the man is one of the greatest performers of his era

    The acts you all want to have that impact just don’t have it.. at best they have moments and some accolades, if anything they deserve the soft hate for not being captivating

    Take .Paak for example lol... he has the Dr Dre backing on a major and he can’t cross over.... he’s definitely trying but his music doesn’t resonate with fans like Chris or even R&B Drizzy

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    house of balloons has so much going on that i can’t argue

    but echoes of silence not being dark wave don’t make sense. in my opinion the only r&b song on that tape is D.D and maybeee same old song

    everything else flirts with r&b via subject matter and vocal delivery. nothing about these beats sound remotely r&b IMO

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    This is honestly a great thread

  • Jan 28, 2021

    Weeknd doesn't make R&B

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    huey p rxcan

    how is appreciating his wide array of influence a discredit to him...

    niggas act like what you sayin is an insult or sumn lol

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    This is real diversity

    Modern R&B

    S*** is crazy.. come on KTT2

  • Jan 28, 2021
    Jalen Brunson Fan

    This is honestly a great thread

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    Culture
    !https://youtu.be/5N8YRren5Z4

    This is real diversity

    Modern R&B

    S*** is crazy.. come on KTT2

    Not r&b

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    yall done got trilla into his xo section 2013 bag s***s scary

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    SHAQUILLE

    Not r&b

    Breh huh

    Explain lok

  • Jan 28, 2021
    Culture
    !https://youtu.be/5N8YRren5Z4

    This is real diversity

    Modern R&B

    S*** is crazy.. come on KTT2

    ni...

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    To be fair Weeknd trilogy sound did kinda put rnb in a new direction offset from that s***ty usher OMG DJ got us falling in love era, BUT it still has a lot of influence to other genres. It’s almost like a bridge to PND which is a bridge to the new era with the szas and all that.

    And frank just does whatever he wants, he just dropped a song prod by justice for gods sakes and another that sounds like drake in my feelings but in Spanish with pitched vocals

  • Jan 28, 2021
    Maartins

    you posted the RnB tag in currents like it was some got ya

    I didn’t post that in there it’s literally in the description and wdym got ya? Was just showing you are wrong

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