I disagree a good rapper can make bad or middling beats good, a bad rapper will never make consistently good music

There’s a abundant abundance of good beats every beat has a remake and 10 similar variations, but captivating stories are slim , there’s hundreds of NY Drill rappers only one Pop Smoke only person with the same story to tell, glow up from from being scrubby kid getting roughhoused in the NYC public school system to a boss

Destroy lonely

He has a story, producer to rapper
Even him biting prime Young Thug and working with him at the same the was crazy

He has 4-5 stories going

Big Sean has no atm, I love finally famous but no

Any rapper with too many features has no story and depends on other rappers stories

French Montana gets the same beats but his story is weak (he actually has a good story but he doesn’t incorporate it or let it be known)

Not really, beats are important but they’re not everything

Hip hop music is about overall bounce imo and it consists of beat component and flow/cadence of rapping

The way cadence and flow of artist work with the bounce of the beat is the key to enjoyability of the song

He realized , smart kid that story about his best friend was brilliant

How does big Sean not have a story? His whole career is a story

I’ll lock this thread if you tell me one artist with even a sliver of success without 3-4 stories theyre telling

I’d say it’s 60/40 with beats/delivery & cadence
Beats are the backbone of rap

Tbh I’m confused on what your definition of stories is

Even lil Tecca had 2-3 stories

Nigga is literally naming rappers that don't have s*** to say or tell

Like College Dropout Kanye
Him and his frustrations with college
His frustrations with poverty in the black community
He had his story about not being respected as a producer
Him trying to make it as a rapper
Him being in Rocafekka and even rubbing shoulders with Jay
Him and his belief with Gods

There’s stories to captivate the listener

? Who EST Gee has the craziest story and it’s all real

The reason having beefs is so important to rappers is you create plot lines so people feel more personal and attached to the music

50 Cent had 5-6 stories

I get what you’re saying people need to be invested into the rappers

So you’re saying that a rappers backstory, perspective and struggles are the most important things in their music?
Idk i guess that’s an aspect but I’m certainly not listening to these rappers for their perspectives. A lot of these rappers’ “stories” (like Travis) aren’t even captivating at all

You listening to Travis for a story that’s your loss brother but I’m just say narratives are not only historically important but will get more and more important as competition more and lore stiff

Moneybagg Yo had local beef to generate interact from Gotti
Collaborated with Lil Baby
Had a mixtape with Youngboy
Beefed with Youngboy (all in one year)
Dated Meghan the Stalion to dating Ari
Also Pooh and 30 blowing up helped him too hus music is great but narratives matter

I’m not listening to Travis at all for his story. Nobody is, yet he’s wildly successful. thats my whole point. I can partially see where you’re coming from though. A lot more people are becoming fans of a rappers story over everything else, but I also think that’s because there’s not much to be desired with some rappers besides their backstory

Its about a variety of things simultaneously @op

Rap ain’t about s*** but image