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  • rustcohlestan2

    they get older still have this superman-like pedestal image of niggas that literally sold poison to their own community just to get by lol.

    not to take away accountability, but if niggas are 21+ that are still thinking like this then i’m sorry that’s their own damn fault lol

    I mean we got one in this thread talking like Syndrome when he took down that poster lol

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    GoldOf1000Mornings

    This is a false equivalency. Selling crack in his youth as a struggling kid in a messed up situation isn't the most moral activity in the world, but people grow. I knew a lot of people who sold it in the 90's. A few were real deal cold and morally bankrupt, but most were decent people who were doing it because it's what they knew to do to get by. Some of these people are dead, a couple locked up, some are straight edged family dudes now who have regrets. Rae is a grown man who doesn't need more at this point in his life, and if he does, he has options that aren't as scummy.

    Selling crack in his youth as a struggling kid in a messed up situation isn't the most moral activity in the world, but people grow. I knew a lot of people who sold it in the 90's.

    I knew a lot of people that sold it in the 80s and 90s. I also knew a lot of people that didn't.

  • insertcoolnamehere

    Rae is a grown man who doesn't need more at this point in his life, and if he does, he has options that aren't as scummy.

    But you do realize the point of what people like me and @AmoryBlain are saying is expecting the man that most likely sold poison to get by as a youngster and by that mentality, was able to help him get ahead in the rap game, is probably not gonna let go of that mentality once he starts making millions and just goes after what is gonna make the most money, you do realize that right?

    And we not saying you not entitled to be disappointed, we just saying you shouldn't be surprised or shocked.

    Rae/most of Wu Tang don't strike me as the most morally upstanding citizens. Ghostface Killah disavowed his gay son lol.

    I'm not saying I'm shocked. I'm holding a human being accountable for being a demon. I'm holding him accountable for not growing even as he was handed the world. I grew up in a bad situation too. I'm far from the person I was when I was 21. I'm not perfect, but I'm better.

  • insertcoolnamehere

    Selling crack in his youth as a struggling kid in a messed up situation isn't the most moral activity in the world, but people grow. I knew a lot of people who sold it in the 90's.

    I knew a lot of people that sold it in the 80s and 90s. I also knew a lot of people that didn't.

    Okay. Well, I never sold it. Definitely had friends who did. Definitely had family who were hooked on it. Nobody was rich. Nobody got rich. It's not the same as a multimillionaire investing in genocide and oppression.

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    GoldOf1000Mornings

    Okay. Well, I never sold it. Definitely had friends who did. Definitely had family who were hooked on it. Nobody was rich. Nobody got rich. It's not the same as a multimillionaire investing in genocide and oppression.

    All I'm saying is growing up is realizing selling crack is investing in genocide and oppression fam.

    We just say "they had to find a way" as a way to soften the blow but generations were destroyed by that s*** mane cmon we all watched Snowfall.

  • insertcoolnamehere

    Rae is a grown man who doesn't need more at this point in his life, and if he does, he has options that aren't as scummy.

    But you do realize the point of what people like me and @AmoryBlain are saying is expecting the man that most likely sold poison to get by as a youngster and by that mentality, was able to help him get ahead in the rap game, is probably not gonna let go of that mentality once he starts making millions and just goes after what is gonna make the most money, you do realize that right?

    And we not saying you not entitled to be disappointed, we just saying you shouldn't be surprised or shocked.

    Rae/most of Wu Tang don't strike me as the most morally upstanding citizens. Ghostface Killah disavowed his gay son lol.

    And Ghost disowning his son is sad. But that's between him and his son. I don't agree with it at all and have always thought it was messed up. I never thought the Wu members were setting high standards of moral values by any means, but this is a very deep low for Rae.

  • insertcoolnamehere

    All I'm saying is growing up is realizing selling crack is investing in genocide and oppression fam.

    We just say "they had to find a way" as a way to soften the blow but generations were destroyed by that s*** mane cmon we all watched Snowfall.

    Sure, that is definitely growing. Rae did not grow. He's not a stupid person, but he's definitely not a good one.

  • insertcoolnamehere

    All I'm saying is growing up is realizing selling crack is investing in genocide and oppression fam.

    We just say "they had to find a way" as a way to soften the blow but generations were destroyed by that s*** mane cmon we all watched Snowfall.

    Also, I never watched Snowfall past the first season. Off topic, but I just forgot to watch.

  • Benny Boy

    A lot of rappers I like never stood for anything lol

    Capitalism ethno cleansing babyyy

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    GoldOf1000Mornings

    You aren't aware that human beings are capable of changing? Growth is something that should be happening in all of us as we age. Empathy, understanding that your actions and investments have real life consequences for your community and the world at large, educating yourself, etc. Seems the only Mathematics this dude is concerned with is his bank account. I'm entitled to my disappointment. I'm entitled to not support this scuzzbucketry. You do you. Far as I'm concerned, Rae can eat a warehouse of d***s.

    my brother i had a bad argument this morning let me take a few steps back

    i understand your sentiment. i wasn’t even talking about you or anyone specifically in my first few comments, just shootin the s***

    at my core i agree with you, respect brother take care, mad love

  • Benny Boy

    A lot of rappers I like never stood for anything lol

    You expect a rapper to have certain moral values or sum?

  • babylon sherm

    The Schlitz Playhouse of Stars >>>

    More of a Duffy's Tavern guy

  • huey p rxcan

    my brother i had a bad argument this morning let me take a few steps back

    i understand your sentiment. i wasn’t even talking about you or anyone specifically in my first few comments, just shootin the s***

    at my core i agree with you, respect brother take care, mad love

    Appreciate it, and peace to you. I admittedly get emotional with the state of the world and mankind in this day and age. I can’t keep my mouth shut on issues like this. Does it make any changes? Probably not. Will boycotting everything Raekwon touches from here on out make a difference to him? Nope. I still gotta let it out though. S*** is just sad these days. Be well.

  • GoldOf1000Mornings

    You aren't aware that human beings are capable of changing? Growth is something that should be happening in all of us as we age. Empathy, understanding that your actions and investments have real life consequences for your community and the world at large, educating yourself, etc. Seems the only Mathematics this dude is concerned with is his bank account. I'm entitled to my disappointment. I'm entitled to not support this scuzzbucketry. You do you. Far as I'm concerned, Rae can eat a warehouse of d***s.

    Feel like you're the type of person to be hard stuck on crucifying the individual vs crucifying the society that makes said people, so you're forever arguing with yourself lol

  • GoldOf1000Mornings

    You aren't aware that human beings are capable of changing? Growth is something that should be happening in all of us as we age. Empathy, understanding that your actions and investments have real life consequences for your community and the world at large, educating yourself, etc. Seems the only Mathematics this dude is concerned with is his bank account. I'm entitled to my disappointment. I'm entitled to not support this scuzzbucketry. You do you. Far as I'm concerned, Rae can eat a warehouse of d***s.

    Growth isn't a linear spectrum you can categories through current moral compasses you identitify with, my man

    People grow up, people grow down

    it's not about you and your ideals, life is mad