thread title is great bait tho
i think op could be more explicit w what he means and lets have another socialism session
This isnt about socialism either nigga
Why do you niggas think every critique of capitalism is socialism
Im talking about going beyond arbitrary economic systems
i think there is an interesting point of conversation to be had that when op talks about essentially indigeneity with respect to land and people the average persons assumption is "live in the woods in grass skirts and eat s***"
like wtf no indigenous societies all around the world were highly technologically and socially advanced especially in comparison to the euro western societies of the same time periods.
like hawaii had a 99% literacy rate and most people were trilingual in english french and native hawaiian while also being able to share the land and take care of everybody before american businessmen couped the government to grow pineapples and macademia nuts.
now you have a 6x higher chance of being shot to death by police as a minority in hawaii than the mainland and poverty rates are literally genocoding kanaka maoli populations as the us military poisons their drinking water.
@op poverty is based on access and use of resources. Living in the tropicals w/o shelter is just bougie homeless, pimpin
What I'm saying is there is no reason humans should have to live in dirty ass shacks or run down ass apartments when the beauty of the earth is right there
If not living in nature then having a standard of living that doesnt cause a blemish on the Earth
This isnt about socialism either nigga
Why do you niggas think every critique of capitalism is socialism
Im talking about going beyond arbitrary economic systems
no im w u on this this is beyond socialism
but most people dont understand indigeneity beyond the colonizer psychological understanding which is why youve got so much reaction going on
obviously hes not implying that
theres plenty of land and resources to sustain everyone on Earth
but its owned by capitalists aka the ultra small minority
scarcity is artificial
maybe you shouldn't base society around profit and individual greed
OP says poverty is a veil on the "natural beauty of earth" and brings up the freedom of animals in nature, he's clearly positioning a "return to nature" as a way to fix that solution imo
yeah
overpopulation is a myth too
we have enough resources for everyone
i guess that’s kinda what you’re already saying but people can’t use that as an excuse
fifty be so so close to the point and then end up missing the mark horribly.
He's like MJ when he played baseball. "At least he's practicing"
This isnt about socialism either nigga
Why do you niggas think every critique of capitalism is socialism
Im talking about going beyond arbitrary economic systems
you ever read braiding sweetgrass?
Like we as humans have survived on this planet for thousands of years without living life according to the capitalist means of doing something because we as evolutionary animals are able to adapt to our situations
What I'm saying is there is no reason humans should have to live in dirty ass shacks or run down ass apartments when the beauty of the earth is right there
If not living in nature then having a standard of living that doesnt cause a blemish on the Earth
Industrial Revolution was one of the worst things to ever happen ngl
So it’s essentially:
Live life according to your income
Or live life according to your survival
OP says poverty is a veil on the "natural beauty of earth" and brings up the freedom of animals in nature, he's clearly positioning a "return to nature" as a way to fix that solution imo
That's not at all what I'm implying
Again, humans were able to survive and sustain themselves for thousands of years before modern capitalism without destroying the beauty of the earth that we have now
That's not the point im trying to make
I'm saying all the tools and resources we need to live in the beauty of the earth is right there but its locked away behind the false shield of poverty
Do you see monkeys and squirrels and s*** living ghettos and slums?
yes. do u think monkeys really enjoy looking behind their backs for survival? squirrels being forced to finding a 'nut' or getting ran over?
Have u ever seen a bird nest nigga and marvel like
I would love to build my own one day?
wake up!
There's a reason Climate Change started becoming an issue after modern Capitalism
The way humans live now is not sustainaible to the Earth cause we're not supposed to be doing the s*** that we're doing
If economic classes and human greed didn't exist there'd be a way for humans to live in harmony with the Earth
That's not at all what I'm implying
Again, humans were able to survive and sustain themselves for thousands of years before modern capitalism without destroying the beauty of the earth that we have now
It was actually very common for humans to die very early (like teens and early twenties) back in Antiquity