Sep 27
CRACKASTEPPAVEGANImma be real chief, I'll only read through this once I've watched and processed
yeah and thats fine dont want to push thoughts on you before you see it.
- Sep 27
Cant wait to see the talents of the artist on other movies
this movie strongest elements for me arent in the writing , plot but rather the visuals and acting. But it still creates a great watch
Sep 27·edited·3 replies- Sep 27·1 replyhttps://twitter.com/filmupdates/status/2104209279582613864Misfit· edited
70% of audience younger than 30 meaning much of the audience never saw the show when it aired is interesting dynamics to me
Sep 27·1 replyHaroldsChickenAnd that is what I feel everyone should do. I think a lot of the covnersations about the movie are less complex than the movie while also wishing the movie delved deeper into its topics
the " its making chris hansen evil and humanizing pedophoiles" isnt true and is reductive "people that have fault with this movie are just fans of chris hansen" also not true and I have posted reviewers cite their actual issues with the movie. "its a hit piece" not entirely true it clearly doesnt present hansen as good or evil but it does present him as absolutely crazy. In doing so at times the pedophiles while clearly pedophiles and have a sick problem arent crazy over the top it can be a tonal whiplash. In reality the Rabbi speech went quite similiar but the Rabbi speech is also central to the movie of "what gives you the right?" much of the movie is questioning what gives Chris Hansen the right to reveal to the world these are would be pedophiles. To work with the police. To make it a consumable amount of entertainment focused on ratings which is what equierer and Jessica conradt asserted even though Chris Hansen has never bragged about ratings , didnt even go to accept his Emmy and isnt religious in real life.
in one sense the movie feels like its creating a hypothesis for why and how someone could decide catching predators with perverted justice a maligned group with many issues in their execution even if for a good cause could go wrong. If he lost part of his soul along the way in doing so and his humanity from constantly being around them. Practicing witty one liners. Making it content. If a content diriven market in all forms corrrupts us whether its reporiting on Lindsay clancy, epstein, serial killers , pedophiles. What separates it from public service Amy Goodman democracy now vs approaching more like Jersey shore of scripted or controlled for best results. If some cases are thrown out ( what is a reasonable success rate vs now people know the person his a pedophile but they can still continue). Some of the predators caught being repeat offenders
Again there are a few changes in the movies that really affect the depiction. Example of one where there is no story reason for it being these decoys in the movie lead the predators on or suggest sexual ideas in ways perverted justice didnt in real life . Because doing so would bring it much closer to discussions of entrapment.
For me that’s easily the worst aspect of the film in how it lowkey tries to make you feel bad for the pedos. From what I hear, the documentary last year called Predators that this movie was loosely inspired by also tried to defend the child predators and there’s something to be said about an industry that was lead by Harvey Weinstein feeling bad for pedophiles
- Sep 27·1 replyImLikeThat
For me that’s easily the worst aspect of the film in how it lowkey tries to make you feel bad for the pedos. From what I hear, the documentary last year called Predators that this movie was loosely inspired by also tried to defend the child predators and there’s something to be said about an industry that was lead by Harvey Weinstein feeling bad for pedophiles
I don’t think it makes you feel bad for the pedos I do think it is a bit intellectually dishonest to go with the esquire article that tried to say he didn’t have child p*** on his computer when it’s already confirmed he did . Like the whole sting operation one thing but the reason why the warrant went through isn’t because Chris Hansen it’s because they had good reason to believe he had child p*** on his computer and he did . Even if Chris Hansen isn’t there the man still blows his brains out because he is a man with child p*** on his computer who wants to escape accountability for his crimes and the public knowing
The movie makes clear in public he presents a different image of deeply caring about the law but in reality he is fighting demons but the movie also poses that Hansen infidelity , love of fame and making it entertainment also makes him reprehensible. Even though so many key points that justify the idea that Hansen is is consumed by fame are fiction and the Gen Z audience will never do a Google search or actually research so it will become the new truth
Chris Hansen didn’t even attend the 2006 Grammys when his show was most popular . Has never in any interviews focused on himself winning or being nominated for a Grammy . Never spent time alone with decoys and no record of him being weird with them . How people can say the fictionalized police scene isn’t weird when the actor himself said Robert was playing it as if Chris was crazy and specifically pointing at his p**** is beyond me . The reading the chat logs over and over to prepare also highly unecessary . This need to paint him as deeply nefarious with a good cause never occurred and there are reports of him being kind throughout production . Seeing his family . Not looking like a sleep deprived lunatic at times looking like an audition for the joker .
He ironically also plays Batman who also takes Justice into his own hands works directly with police . For entertainment we watch . Yet we never see “ heroes “ no matter how gray as this dark . He was never competition for ratings with lost . Was always the primetime slot ,
He had a mutual respect from stone Phillips who defended Chris Hansens work
“ In June 2006, Hansen traveled to China to report in a year-long hidden camera investigation into the counterfeit prescription d*** trade. The Emmy and IRE-winning report documented how easy it is for counterfeit medicines to wind up at local pharmacies in the United States. He has received two Emmy Awards for his 2004 report on child s***trafficking in Cambodia for which he went undercover in a dramatic mission to rescue some of the children.
Additionally, Hansen has played a significant role in "Dateline's" coverage of the war on terror and homeland security issues. He was responsible for much of "Dateline's" coverage of the September 11 terrorist attacks, with breaking investigative stories that focused on the terrorists and operations of the Al-Qaeda network. Hansen exposed how a group with links to Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda tried to buy stinger missiles and other deadly weapons, including components for nuclear devices from American citizens. He also worked on the exclusive report detailing how terrorists attempted a similar attack in France in 1994”The movie is intellectually dishonest at times and knows its audience some of who are Gen Z and others who love Robert Pattinson don’t care about the truth . I say all this to say if an Obama movie was made and it added in this many fictional details I would say something too and I hate he is a war criminal . If it preached him as crazy over the top narcisst while making basketball shots drone striking Chlidren winning Nobel peace prize getting a museum made in his honor gentrifying the city then added in a commentary of a relationship with his kids and Hillary Clinton was innthr movie playing herself as Jeffzucker is. No one in this thread can justify the head of nbc who went on to be the head of cnn during its most sensationalized time who defended Chris cup from rape allegations is in this movie
- Sep 27
No one can justify this movie presenting it like the decoys were giving the sexual ideas and not the subjects . Because many of them don’t even care about the topic they are seeing it for a good performance. Don’t want to accept that a star ever like could be in something that is intellectually dishonest at moments because it’s entertaining and will likely win him an Oscar
- Sep 27·1 replyHaroldsChicken
I don’t think it makes you feel bad for the pedos I do think it is a bit intellectually dishonest to go with the esquire article that tried to say he didn’t have child p*** on his computer when it’s already confirmed he did . Like the whole sting operation one thing but the reason why the warrant went through isn’t because Chris Hansen it’s because they had good reason to believe he had child p*** on his computer and he did . Even if Chris Hansen isn’t there the man still blows his brains out because he is a man with child p*** on his computer who wants to escape accountability for his crimes and the public knowing
The movie makes clear in public he presents a different image of deeply caring about the law but in reality he is fighting demons but the movie also poses that Hansen infidelity , love of fame and making it entertainment also makes him reprehensible. Even though so many key points that justify the idea that Hansen is is consumed by fame are fiction and the Gen Z audience will never do a Google search or actually research so it will become the new truth
Chris Hansen didn’t even attend the 2006 Grammys when his show was most popular . Has never in any interviews focused on himself winning or being nominated for a Grammy . Never spent time alone with decoys and no record of him being weird with them . How people can say the fictionalized police scene isn’t weird when the actor himself said Robert was playing it as if Chris was crazy and specifically pointing at his p**** is beyond me . The reading the chat logs over and over to prepare also highly unecessary . This need to paint him as deeply nefarious with a good cause never occurred and there are reports of him being kind throughout production . Seeing his family . Not looking like a sleep deprived lunatic at times looking like an audition for the joker .
He ironically also plays Batman who also takes Justice into his own hands works directly with police . For entertainment we watch . Yet we never see “ heroes “ no matter how gray as this dark . He was never competition for ratings with lost . Was always the primetime slot ,
He had a mutual respect from stone Phillips who defended Chris Hansens work
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna11131562
“ In June 2006, Hansen traveled to China to report in a year-long hidden camera investigation into the counterfeit prescription d*** trade. The Emmy and IRE-winning report documented how easy it is for counterfeit medicines to wind up at local pharmacies in the United States. He has received two Emmy Awards for his 2004 report on child s***trafficking in Cambodia for which he went undercover in a dramatic mission to rescue some of the children.
Additionally, Hansen has played a significant role in "Dateline's" coverage of the war on terror and homeland security issues. He was responsible for much of "Dateline's" coverage of the September 11 terrorist attacks, with breaking investigative stories that focused on the terrorists and operations of the Al-Qaeda network. Hansen exposed how a group with links to Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda tried to buy stinger missiles and other deadly weapons, including components for nuclear devices from American citizens. He also worked on the exclusive report detailing how terrorists attempted a similar attack in France in 1994”The movie is intellectually dishonest at times and knows its audience some of who are Gen Z and others who love Robert Pattinson don’t care about the truth . I say all this to say if an Obama movie was made and it added in this many fictional details I would say something too and I hate he is a war criminal . If it preached him as crazy over the top narcisst while making basketball shots drone striking Chlidren winning Nobel peace prize getting a museum made in his honor gentrifying the city then added in a commentary of a relationship with his kids and Hillary Clinton was innthr movie playing herself as Jeffzucker is. No one in this thread can justify the head of nbc who went on to be the head of cnn during its most sensationalized time who defended Chris cup from rape allegations is in this movie
Well the thing is the movie makes every pedo (besides the one with the whipped cream) seem so innocent. The first one is literally crying and begging and saying he deserves the electric chair when not a single predator ever on that show said such a thing.
Then you got that predator with cerebral palsy who says he’s a virgin and never done anything with anyone before. And it’s implied he’s severely mishandled when arrested (also wasn’t true irl).
The rabbi in this movie gets to act morally superior over Hansen. How wild is that that Oppenheim frames a pedophile as the morally superior character?
And ofc with the judge at the end, the movie doesn’t even really imply he has child p***. Watching it, you’d think he wants to fry the laptop because it’s his only way of communicating with teens. Like the film generally seems to put this notion that these people would’ve never acted on their desires if it wasn’t for the decoys trying to fish them out and tries to make the TCAP team look predatory for painstakingly trying to get them arrested for entertainment. Like it almost seems they want to make this like Nightcrawler and imply the TCAP team and Hansen made up predators who weren’t actually predators.
- Sep 27·1 replyImLikeThat
Well the thing is the movie makes every pedo (besides the one with the whipped cream) seem so innocent. The first one is literally crying and begging and saying he deserves the electric chair when not a single predator ever on that show said such a thing.
Then you got that predator with cerebral palsy who says he’s a virgin and never done anything with anyone before. And it’s implied he’s severely mishandled when arrested (also wasn’t true irl).
The rabbi in this movie gets to act morally superior over Hansen. How wild is that that Oppenheim frames a pedophile as the morally superior character?
And ofc with the judge at the end, the movie doesn’t even really imply he has child p***. Watching it, you’d think he wants to fry the laptop because it’s his only way of communicating with teens. Like the film generally seems to put this notion that these people would’ve never acted on their desires if it wasn’t for the decoys trying to fish them out and tries to make the TCAP team look predatory for painstakingly trying to get them arrested for entertainment. Like it almost seems they want to make this like Nightcrawler and imply the TCAP team and Hansen made up predators who weren’t actually predators.
I mean the rabbi in real life portrayed himself as morally superior the rest I kind of agree on . The fan on the plane saying bleed them was shown as darker in some ways and Chris Hansen laughs with him and says “ what we do is worse “ in a way that he doesn’t address the blood lust when in reality while saying he doesn’t love sleep over the suicide made clear it’s tragic . If every single pedophile that he caught killed to escape accountability what does that have to do with him . They are doing it to escape accountability same way the movie frames him pushing himself on the show to escape accountability for cheating that all alleged cases occurred after the show ended
- Sep 27HaroldsChicken
I mean the rabbi in real life portrayed himself as morally superior the rest I kind of agree on . The fan on the plane saying bleed them was shown as darker in some ways and Chris Hansen laughs with him and says “ what we do is worse “ in a way that he doesn’t address the blood lust when in reality while saying he doesn’t love sleep over the suicide made clear it’s tragic . If every single pedophile that he caught killed to escape accountability what does that have to do with him . They are doing it to escape accountability same way the movie frames him pushing himself on the show to escape accountability for cheating that all alleged cases occurred after the show ended
Yeah in real life, the show did do a poor job with evidence collection (around a 40% conviction rate on the show compared to around 60-70% at the time from actual police stings). I think the reason the show got cancelled had more to do with just the suicide because it also dealt with how law enforcement didn’t like the thirty party evidence collection methods with the show which lead to lower conviction rates. Hansen said the shows message had ran its course and ultimately TCAP was there to display awareness about parents needing to monitor their kids internet usage because of these predators. Hansen eventually did improve the evidence collection on his next show Hansen vs Predator and got a 100% conviction rate.
Also irl, the rabbi was very awkward I believe. He just said “this isn’t good” and then he did lunge at Hansen but never touched him. Regardless of his a****** attitude, the movie frames him as if he’s morally superior because he gets to usher in the point the film is making as it’s accusing Hansen of playing judge, jury, executioner over ratings. As Hansen just recently said: someone should look into Oppenheims transcripts
- Sep 27
And the film does make it appear like perverted justice and Hansen were d*** dealers who were like “ ha you like heroin that we served you look at this d*** epidemic “
Having a decoy suggest they take a shower together and playing sexual scenes and pedophilia moments for laughs in recreations like this for financial and critical gain . Movie just landed and they are talking Oscar’s
Sep 27On a Pattinson binge, gonna watch Mickey 17 with my wife later, that movie didn’t hit my radar for some reason
Sep 27·1 replyHow one could watch this and think that it tries to make the viewer feel bad for pedophiles is beyond me
Like there’s no way you got that message from watching this particular movie
Sep 27·2 repliesshaleiroseHow one could watch this and think that it tries to make the viewer feel bad for pedophiles is beyond me
Like there’s no way you got that message from watching this particular movie
haven't seen it (yet) but it's very likely that there are people out there who think that criticizing Chris Hansen means that you are excusing pedophilia
Sep 27·2 replies
NobodyWinsOdyssey
Dune
Primetime
?Drama duh
- Sep 27·1 replyOscar Winner
Drama duh
Ehhh
- Sep 27·1 replyNobodyWins
Ehhh
Ain’t no ehhh it’s more like ayeeeeeee
- Sep 27·1 replyOscar Winner
Ain’t no ehhh it’s more like ayeeeeeee
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- Sep 27·1 replyNobodyWins
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- Sep 27·1 replyOscar Winner
Yeah but that’s different
- Sep 27·1 replyNobodyWins
Yeah but that’s different
No nigga it’s not
- Sep 27·5 repliesOscar Winner
No nigga it’s not
That’s a good scene but come on man drama in top 10 of the year…
Be serious bro…
- Sep 27NobodyWins
That’s a good scene but come on man drama in top 10 of the year…
Be serious bro…
The Drama is phenomenal
Sep 27·3 repliesNobodyWinsThat’s a good scene but come on man drama in top 10 of the year…
Be serious bro…
I agree with him
- Sep 27·1 replyHaroldsChicken
you got a an issue with me cool keep it here dont troll me in a thread about a genocide @shaleirose have some level of decorum.
Wasn’t trolling but respect
