Drove to LA, watched this movie at 11pm. Currently driving to Palm Springs with a bag of in n out and a motel 6 waiting for me

I think this picture rly fit my night

Good movie but Pattinson is very overrated in this, he really didn’t capture Hansen at all and his impression of his voice is terrible

go eat at kung fu amerasia

oh wait you already went

Yeah I saw the documentary, s*** was fire. I still wanna see this s*** but skeptical tbh

good pattinson performance but I dont think it gets as layered adn again so cartoony over the top. Also kind of makes a mockery of Hansens non predator work

I need to rewatch the documentary. The documentary in some ways is harsher to him than this. This however the fabricated details and how it changes things to be entertainment are so egregious because a lot of the audience wont realize how much is fake so its kind of annoying

"twot things can be true hansen reprehensible and predators are bad he cared about ratings"

when the main idea that the show as moved to prime time made up, the idea that he cared about ratings to help with other life issues that happened half a decade after the show went off air made up, the idea that he treated a decoy like this you guessed it made up

they make up specific plot points to assert something rather than the reality information . Perverted justice did make merch which was odd they could go with what their merch said that was still odd. They instead decide to change the merch to say " contents at least 18". There are countless things they change

how anyone can say this doesnt cast him in a bad light when literally at times his face is cast in bad lighting where his face looks entirely black and lightest of spoilers he sneaks up on people in darkness at times and cast screams when they see him is beyond me

its hamfisted.

Do pedophiles look worse. Yes but part of it is moments where decoys appear as if they feel as if they think they entrapped people. Chat dialogue at times going from the reality to framed much differently

They kind of avoid what the show actually did for vicitms and instead focus on the audience desire for venegance and even then dont go in because nothing has changed in some ways. Epstein case the same way . People still desire for predators to be caught its still entertainment. People still using epstein ai and truth is they would whether Chris Hansen show ever existed or not.

If the conceit is " he is doing it for ratings awards accolades money"

then my question to Lance who is already campaigning this for oscars, will have a great box office, doing nothing for victims is what is he doing this for?

Chris Hansen has done direct work with victims and every single detail changed in this story is to make Chris Hansen look worse when Perverted Justice are the ones that got a bit out of control.

getting so cartoony where it goes with the esquire article on multiple points of contention that in the 20 years since many people have recognized ESQUIRE ISNT A REPUTABLE JOURNALIST WITH NO BIAS AND TO BE FULLY TRUSTED. They in their own article and reporting defend an alleged pedophile and act like he didn't have CSAM in his possession.

can you explain to me what this means? like the insane clown posse?

Im a ICP fan and Hansen's buddies with them lol

yes its insane clown posse

but why did he randomly tell us he’s an icp fan and hansen is too?

then my question to Lance who is already campaigning this for oscars, will have a great box office, doing nothing for victims is what is he doing this for?

This is being presented as a movie, not journalism

I dont think its pro pedophile to be clear. The movie has hints of an era where things were black and white with reporters righteous about their work. Predators were Chris Hansens Terrorist same way Stone Phillips was reporting on Iraq. Mythical evils where their goal was to rid the world of them or report on their elimination in some form. its just how much it became entertainment. How much of our reality became ridding the world of evil and in doing so did those reporting on it also approach levels of darkness and evil to get there. I just dont think through what the movie showed and the amount of fabrication of details it effectively does so without leaning too far into cartoony and borderline defamation.

While I entirely get what its going for. His show dateline nbc he covered crime throughout. Wasnt just 3 years of only catchign predators and not seeing his family.

He was essentially asserting as a fan of insane clown posse that he doesnt entirely demonize or hate chris hansen

crine bro im way too zooted for this thread right now

so selling your soul only matters if its journalism ?

Can there be questionable things creators of any art do for publicity, to get awards or presentations?

I think so .

the "its a movie" card on serious topics when bro read the script and convinced Rob to star over four lokos after reading the script in his car til 1am in his car as soon as he got it

You can be exploiting the serious issue of child pedophilia for personal gain IN ANY FORM OF MEDIA MAN

be it reporting movie, a rap beef lol I have mentioned this for years.

they selling a whole tie but I cant criticize the contradiction because "its a movie"

no s*** its a movie. A24 was too afraid to produce artificial partially because their investors have ties to Open Ai. But its just a movie so what happened ?

Journalism has an inherent nature of telling truth for truth's sake for the betterment of the world around you. If fame and entertainment are your driving motivators as a journalist, then that's a problem. A movie is not journalism

Chris Hansen did tell the truth though. He sensationalized but its the truth. he didnt fabricate details or create CSAM that wasnt there.

in your mind fame and entertainment were his sole factors when his reporting has existed before and after this show on NBC and isnt limited to fame or entertainment.

brother he has worked directly with victims. Can you name a investigative journalist who you appreciate in any topic that you feel didn't do it for "fame and entertaniment"

I am asserting yes eventually if your reporting is good enough people give you fame. Also people dont read so most investigative journalism is eventually made into a documentary or some form of video form. The hardest of it to watch and create is where is more dry or straight forward without the human ness of the subject

act of killing look of silence citizen four exist

Seymour hersh chicago legend wrote about abu gharib. Most couldnt even tell me who he is or what he wrote they have solely seen the iconic images

Once cameras role everything becomes "entertainment"

"A documentary is a movie, television show, or radio program that presents facts, real events, and actual people instead of fictional stories"

by definition To Catch a Predator is still a documentary it just blends with the reality tv format but its not like jersey shore or real world where its scripted or highly controlled.

Cops is entertainment and I have discussed the conflict of should cameras be recording can the public learn something from it.

I think the public can and have learned something from to catch a predator besides just "oooo what a great humiliation ritual witch hunt I cant wait to throw the show on with some popcorn"

brother I watched this show as a a teenager and at the time there was no form of knowing kids were abused at all or that adults could even have the tenacity to do so. Show inspired me to help victims and know these cycles exist at all . When a lot of the media would make an entire joke of the action of sexual assault and pedophilia at all or it wasnt talked about AT ALL IN THE NEWS.

If you can't see how To Catch a Predator was highly sensationalized and purposefully preying upon American fears to gain viewers, then I literally do not know what to tell you

I think its dishonest to say fame and entertainment are the primary driving motivators. He became a reporter in 1981 and from 1981 to catch a predator didnt exist til 2004. 23 years into his career you didnt even know his name or his reporting it still existed. Yes he won an emmy but that was for reporting on slave labor in india. Not mystery murders and evil spirit lol.

He cotinued to report on crime when the show existed and after both on and off screen . With the rise of youtube and video content yes he is on video. Once people stopped reading yes he is definitely on video more, podcast. But the purity of the journalist some of are asking for yet have no examples of that they listen to ,read, watch or favorite articles or stories is the contradiction I am getting at?

Have you seen predators documentary which critiques him and has actual details in it or were you just waiting for the fictional horror movie starring the man playing Batman you like?

I am asserting if people dont care about a serious topic or topics until its diluted for them in major hollywood movies focused on making money, memes , merch, halloween costumes that also isnt great. The movie in many ways is preaching to the choir of people that believe his main focuses were fame and entertainment. The movie would have you believe he doesnt give a f*** about victims besides a religious fanaticism, him having kids and to further himself. It would have you believe he is entirely creepy with decoys who are of age but they are just props for him to further himself. So that is still reprehensible

Brother I myself know journalist at major networks and have written and reported on many topics in 2020. Covered pro r kelly protest, black lives matter, aderenochrome protest ( yes it was wild). Some journalist do sell their soul but a man who at a point in time had a warrant out for his arrest for bounced checks on rent isnt some fame , entertainment , get rich quick scheme on catching pedophiles

Have you seen predators documentary which critiques him and has actual details in it or were you just waiting for the fictional horror movie starring the man playing Batman you like?

Yes. Are you done?

Y’all are spitting and that’s cool but listen. Nobody is better than Pattinson right now.