i watched it when u posted it right before im not gonna ignore what you're posting
Ukraine is the only country in the world that has
1. An openly Neo-Nazi group named after a racist phrase, paid as the official city special police (not just any city, but the capital + several other cities)
And
2. An openly Neo-nazi paramilitary working alongside the state military in an official capacity
All going on for several years before this invasion
It is in no way comparable to any other country in the world as far as the institutionalization of open Nazis goes.
european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head
These ppl are truly redacted beyond belief.
Oh I'm sure all those homeless people are enjoying their right to write a dissenting article in the newspapers
That's what he's saying tho
And like there is no poverty in another situation wtf
Btw: Von der Leyen needs to stfu
I dont think its bout economy here if i read his post correctly, they just want political freedom
this too
I'm not ukrainian, but I am Latvian and Latvia has 100% had its fair share of russian takeovers. And I can confidently say that most Latvians would easily choose to be poor and free over being better off but politically part of Russia.
actually it's quite complex because in the Soviet times they killed hundreds of thousands of Latvians and shipped in hundreds of thousands of Russians to try and erase the culture. Now a really sizable chunk of people living in Latvia are actually just Russian. and I doubt they would feel as strongly about Latvian independence
Ukraine is the only country in the world that has
1. An openly Neo-Nazi group named after a racist phrase, paid as the official city special police (not just any city, but the capital + several other cities)
And
2. An openly Neo-nazi paramilitary working alongside the state military in an official capacity
All going on for several years before this invasion
It is in no way comparable to any other country in the world as far as the institutionalization of open Nazis goes.
man, you keep posting this but i don't understand what you're implying
do you agree with Putin that Russia should destroy the Ukraine state because it's a neo-nazi state ?
you can have this opinion, but just say it clearly
hm fair
also yeah russia invading them wouldn't fix a single dam thing lmao
it prob would be significantly worse living under russian rule tbh
also. US backed the coup. they played a hand in installing the current leadership. There's also a s*** ton of oil n natural gas in Ukraine. It must take a LOT of restraint for the greedy b******s at the top to keep from jumping in
For sure, a Russian invasion won't do s*** at all, even besides the violation of sovereignty Russia's capitalism isn't any less exploitative
And yeah US coup was really the start of all this
What I also don't understand is if the West had all this intelligence about a Russian invasion, why did they close the door to Ukrainian neutrality. Is the prospect of a Western-aligned Ukraine so important to them that they're willing to stand by and watch Ukraine get invaded because of their hardline policy of NATO?
european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head
They must know something we don’t.
Surely.
european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head
Ukraine requested a lot of s***. Doesnt mean they will get it.
Zelensky lied about Turkey closing the Bosphorus Strait 2 days ago and Turkish officials had to come out and say such a conversation never happened.
For sure, a Russian invasion won't do s*** at all, even besides the violation of sovereignty Russia's capitalism isn't any less exploitative
And yeah US coup was really the start of all this
What I also don't understand is if the West had all this intelligence about a Russian invasion, why did they close the door to Ukrainian neutrality. Is the prospect of a Western-aligned Ukraine so important to them that they're willing to stand by and watch Ukraine get invaded because of their hardline policy of NATO?
Because the military industry complex gets billions from this and so do US energy companies after Russian gas gets cut off. It is worth it for them.
Germany alone pledged 100 billion euros for their military this year. How much of that goes to Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon...
That's what he's saying tho
And like there is no poverty in another situation wtf
Btw: Von der Leyen needs to stfu
There wasnt poverty like that in Ukraine when it was in the USSR tho lol
What she saying rn
man, you keep posting this but i don't understand what you're implying
do you agree with Putin that Russia should destroy the Ukraine state because it's a neo-nazi state ?
you can have this opinion, but just say it clearly
I oppose arming Nazis under any circumstances
european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head
Bruh keep them out wtf
There wasnt poverty like that in Ukraine when it was in the USSR tho lol
What she saying rn
Shes in favour of Ukraine joining the EU
For sure, a Russian invasion won't do s*** at all, even besides the violation of sovereignty Russia's capitalism isn't any less exploitative
And yeah US coup was really the start of all this
What I also don't understand is if the West had all this intelligence about a Russian invasion, why did they close the door to Ukrainian neutrality. Is the prospect of a Western-aligned Ukraine so important to them that they're willing to stand by and watch Ukraine get invaded because of their hardline policy of NATO?
it prob wasn't the west who forced Ukraine to consider NATO membership seriously.
It was prob the people.
Bruh living under Russia sucks d***. and u can say all u want abt how US and NATO might be manipulative or whatever but that protection is so super crucial. If Ukrainians are anything like Latvians, they would 100% be for NATO membership, especially after the crimea situation.
I dont think Ukraine pushing for NATO membership was a part of the west's plan tbh. The west is poweful but not like pure absolute power lol. other countries still have some degree of autonomy and not everything goes according to the west's master plan
it prob wasn't the west who forced Ukraine to consider NATO membership seriously.
It was prob the people.
Bruh living under Russia sucks d***. and u can say all u want abt how US and NATO might be manipulative or whatever but that protection is so super crucial. If Ukrainians are anything like Latvians, they would 100% be for NATO membership, especially after the crimea situation.
I dont think Ukraine pushing for NATO membership was a part of the west's plan tbh. The west is poweful but not like pure absolute power lol. other countries still have some degree of autonomy and not everything goes according to the west's master plan
Yeah living under US>>> Living under russia
I oppose arming Nazis under any circumstances
ok, you oppose arming nazis. i think it's a reasonable position, i'm also not a big fan of giving weapons to Ukraine right now.
do you support the idea that Russia should destroy the actual Ukraine state/government because of its links with nazis ?
ok, you oppose arming nazis. i think it's a reasonable position, i'm also not a big fan of giving weapons to Ukraine right now.
do you support the idea that Russia should destroy the actual Ukraine state/government because of its links with nazis ?
it prob wasn't the west who forced Ukraine to consider NATO membership seriously.
It was prob the people.
Bruh living under Russia sucks d***. and u can say all u want abt how US and NATO might be manipulative or whatever but that protection is so super crucial. If Ukrainians are anything like Latvians, they would 100% be for NATO membership, especially after the crimea situation.
I dont think Ukraine pushing for NATO membership was a part of the west's plan tbh. The west is poweful but not like pure absolute power lol. other countries still have some degree of autonomy and not everything goes according to the west's master plan
It absolutely was lmao, they already wanted Ukraine to join NATO in 2008
And bro NATO membership was HIGHLY unpopular in Ukraine until they got sucked into a proxy-war with Russia after the coup in 2014

Ukraine is the only country in the world that has
1. An openly Neo-Nazi group named after a racist phrase, paid as the official city special police (not just any city, but the capital + several other cities)
And
2. An openly Neo-nazi paramilitary working alongside the state military in an official capacity
All going on for several years before this invasion
It is in no way comparable to any other country in the world as far as the institutionalization of open Nazis goes.
i understand
disgusting i totally agree
reading up on this topic the government seems to have been trying to quell these groups after 2018 but also i dont live there so idk how much this worked rferl.org/a/deputized-as-election-monitors-ukrainian-ultranationalists-ready-to-punch-violators/29809207.html
my ukranians friends are very far left leaning but this is very anectodal and i understand these issues dont go away overnight
but if you still cant justify attacks on civilian areas because a population has an alt right problem, by that logic you'd be ok with terrorists blowing up skyscrapers in NY because of the alt right problem in america (im not saying you are ok with this im jsut using this as an example as to why its still important to support ukraine in this scenario)