No one in the western establishment is supporting the russian govt lol

Stealing from the taliban?

This is also a likely outcome. Either way, Nazi proponents are nothing to scoff at.

That's what folks have been saying this entire time itt. No one is saying Russia is in the right, but it's dangerous to throw all your support at every Ukrainian force.

Stealing the last opportunity to help the people of Afghanistan

Yeah well we have some very fine folks here thinking we should arm Nazis

i thought the point of discussing the ukraine nazis was to show that they aren't supported? shouldnt we also discuss russian nazis to also show they are not supported? why would complaining about ukraine nazis be a signal for supporting them

We aren't talking about any far-right ideologue. Fascism is born from devastation and desperation to move past that devastation. It's ahistorical to say otherwise.

And I’m not talking about arming Ukraine in spite of Nazis. We have people justifying the arming of the Nazis too now

Yes

They're the government in Afghanistan now, you're not helping the people dealing with a famine by stealing billions from them

this discussion of ukraine nazis has certainly not been a discussion that is intended to support ukraine not sure what you're talking about re: support of russia!

The thing is that they are supported by the west and their government in this fight. We, as members of the west, have to be critical of this if we really care about not supporting Nazis

and again its one thing to give military aid

its another to give 6 billion like Biden proposed

thats more than Ukraine's entire military budget

Aid from who?

Think you're WAY overestimating the sway an extremist ideology is going to have on Ukrainians who just gonna be absolutely exhausted from war and literally just want peace.

Much different situations imo. Not a tough sell to say hey join this group to fight Western aggression in the Middle East. What are extremists in the Ukraine selling?

Doesn’t matter. It’s their money sitting in their accounts

Fighting eastern aggression from Russia?

really caring about fighting nazis = acknowledging that the Western nazis are worse than Eastern nazis? why else would we need to be any more especially critical

we can bypass arming ukraine by reducing russian economy to smithereens and ensuring ukrainians keep fighting long

cut out that risk

Reword this please it makes no sense in its current form

I don’t want a long war

and once over, we bring georgia, finland, sweden into nato

and colour revolution belarus

no more playing nice mr putin

Surely nothing bad will happen if we just throw a bunch of weapons at a potentially unstable country containing bad actors with no recourse

We've done it before and it's always turned out peachy

how is being critical of Western nazis, and a lot less critical of eastern nazis, a definitive quality of western people "really caring about fighting nazis"

why not just be critical of them all
why do we just focus on the ukraine ones

Im confused at yr point ngl

Can you elaborate