Well that's literally what they're doing by trying to join NATO that's what i been tryna tell yall
wheres their nato membership tho?
wheres an official invitation?
all this d*** swinging from russia cuz ukraine is asking nato to join not nato inviting them
or am i missing something?
It literally was tho lol, that's just a fact of history
Later on it served more as a means to sanitize Western imperialism in places like Libya and Afghanistan
americana was making it seem as if nato is planning to attack russia and giving the reason why they were created in the 40s as the pretense why will attack today
either that or he confirmed to me that he in fact cannot read english
this whole time i’ve been on the side of thinking there would be no invasion, and if there is, it would be targeted and small. with the recognition of the separatist enclaves as independent it seems the move is gonna be to invade just those regions of the Donbas to “liberate” them from Ukraine
makes sense because that’s big enough for Putin to claim a win, but not big enough for the West to do anything beyond more sanctions. i just don’t see how he goes much further than that (assuming he does invade to support the enclaves)
wheres their nato membership tho?
wheres an official invitation?
all this d*** swinging from russia cuz ukraine is asking nato to join not nato inviting them
or am i missing something?
Ukraine was already promised entry into NATO in 2008
And the US reiterated their support for that in 2018
sofrep.com/news/united-states-supports-ukraines-move-to-nato
The United State’s 22nd Permanent Representative to NATO, Kay Bailey Hutchison, has guaranteed Ukraine of the United States support for their induction into NATO. She expressed this confidently during a panel discussion at the eleventh Security Forum, which was set-up by the Open Ukraine Fund. She said, “We want Ukraine to become a NATO member, I can assure you. The road to membership is long for many countries. Nothing takes place immediately. The Annual national plan is a good path towards membership. To become part of NATO, you need to show a stable democracy, show a rule of law, show a free press, show that you are a government that can stand and defend itself because it has the strength of a true democracy.”
Ukraine was already promised entry into NATO in 2008
And the US reiterated their support for that in 2018
https://sofrep.com/news/united-states-supports-ukraines-move-to-nato/
The United State’s 22nd Permanent Representative to NATO, Kay Bailey Hutchison, has guaranteed Ukraine of the United States support for their induction into NATO. She expressed this confidently during a panel discussion at the eleventh Security Forum, which was set-up by the Open Ukraine Fund. She said, “We want Ukraine to become a NATO member, I can assure you. The road to membership is long for many countries. Nothing takes place immediately. The Annual national plan is a good path towards membership. To become part of NATO, you need to show a stable democracy, show a rule of law, show a free press, show that you are a government that can stand and defend itself because it has the strength of a true democracy.”
at work rn let me read this in a few
Ukraine was already promised entry into NATO in 2008
And the US reiterated their support for that in 2018
https://sofrep.com/news/united-states-supports-ukraines-move-to-nato/
The United State’s 22nd Permanent Representative to NATO, Kay Bailey Hutchison, has guaranteed Ukraine of the United States support for their induction into NATO. She expressed this confidently during a panel discussion at the eleventh Security Forum, which was set-up by the Open Ukraine Fund. She said, “We want Ukraine to become a NATO member, I can assure you. The road to membership is long for many countries. Nothing takes place immediately. The Annual national plan is a good path towards membership. To become part of NATO, you need to show a stable democracy, show a rule of law, show a free press, show that you are a government that can stand and defend itself because it has the strength of a true democracy.”
promising and showing support is a big gap between an official invitation, even before all this ukraine was not going to be joining NATO anytime soon because of the frozen conflicts in its borders
promising and showing support is a big gap between an official invitation, even before all this ukraine was not going to be joining NATO anytime soon because of the frozen conflicts in its borders
Yes but let's not act as if "as soon as the conflict in eastern ukraine is resolved, Ukraine can be a part of NATO" is that much better when there's still a dispute over the Crimea
Putin literally came out and said today he thinks it was a mistake to give the former Soviet republics the right to leave.
Putin literally came out and said today he thinks it was a mistake to give the former Soviet republics the right to leave.
And? Lmfao
That doesn't mean he's gonna start invading all of em wtf is wrong with yall
Westoids desperate for another great enemy in Russia
There rly is no need to be beefing with them like that tbh
Like if i was the leader of the US empire i would try to keep russia a friend bc you gon need em against china
But then again amerikkkan empire been getting more incompetent over the years
fell off
Dusty as SHYT
Stuck in the former cold war glory days
b**** the berlin wall been gone for over 3 decades bozos
And? Lmfao
That doesn't mean he's gonna start invading all of em wtf is wrong with yall
It doesn't? Stop simping for thugs like Putin
It doesn't? Stop simping for thugs like Putin
Am i also a simp for saddam bc i think war with them was wrong?
Am i a simp for the US for thinking pearl harbor was wrong?
Damn im just an emotional w**** like that huh
Westoids desperate for another great enemy in Russia
There rly is no need to be beefing with them like that tbh
Like if i was the leader of the US empire i would try to keep russia a friend bc you gon need em against china
But then again amerikkkan empire been getting more incompetent over the years
fell off
Dusty as SHYT
Stuck in the former cold war glory days
b**** the berlin wall been gone for over 3 decades bozos
idiot
It doesn't? Stop simping for thugs like Putin
Why would Putin, a capitalist oligarch, benefit from creating a socialist state by invading multiple countries at once in a world where it isn’t a superpower? The hypothetical USSR2 doesn’t even need to invade those countries to reestablish itself, considering the existence of china?
this isn’t the MCU
Why would Putin, a capitalist oligarch, benefit from creating a socialist state by invading multiple countries at once in a world where it isn’t a superpower? The hypothetical USSR2 doesn’t even need to invade those countries to reestablish itself, considering the existence of china?
this isn’t the MCU
He's not going to create a socialist state, he's simply trying to expand the Russian Federation through annexation. I thought that part of the a***ogy would be implicit, apparently not. When Russians clamor for the old Soviet Union, they mean it in a nationalist way, not a marxist way.
Westoids desperate for another great enemy in Russia
There rly is no need to be beefing with them like that tbh
Like if i was the leader of the US empire i would try to keep russia a friend bc you gon need em against china
But then again amerikkkan empire been getting more incompetent over the years
fell off
Dusty as SHYT
Stuck in the former cold war glory days
b**** the berlin wall been gone for over 3 decades bozos
everything u said here is correct
He's not going to create a socialist state, he's simply trying to expand the Russian Federation through annexation. I thought that part of the a***ogy would be implicit, apparently not. When Russians clamor for the old Soviet Union, they mean it in a nationalist way, not a marxist way.
he's not an idiot, doing that isnt feasible in any sense lol. They're mostly looking to retain and reinforce what they already have while preventing NATO from coming near their borders
we should be tryna be friends with russia this s*** rock bottom down bad territory
the whole situation for every party involved
we should be tryna be friends with russia this s*** rock bottom down bad territory
the whole situation for every party involved
the US corporate gets nothing from being friends with russia since they dont have economic influence in the country and they lose another enemy to paint in case they need to boost the economy again
Ukraine was already promised entry into NATO in 2008
And the US reiterated their support for that in 2018
https://sofrep.com/news/united-states-supports-ukraines-move-to-nato/
The United State’s 22nd Permanent Representative to NATO, Kay Bailey Hutchison, has guaranteed Ukraine of the United States support for their induction into NATO. She expressed this confidently during a panel discussion at the eleventh Security Forum, which was set-up by the Open Ukraine Fund. She said, “We want Ukraine to become a NATO member, I can assure you. The road to membership is long for many countries. Nothing takes place immediately. The Annual national plan is a good path towards membership. To become part of NATO, you need to show a stable democracy, show a rule of law, show a free press, show that you are a government that can stand and defend itself because it has the strength of a true democracy.”
listen man if im russia im also not down for these niggas to join nato
and if im america i dont give one f*** what russia wants
both are right in some aspects, both are wrong in others