Aug 30, 2022TragedyBerlusconiI mean while this is true I'm sure some of our more creative minds here would find a way to tar ukraine as both a nazi hellhoke and irs population and supporters simultaneously pro israel
Both ukraine & russia mutually support Israel to the extent Israel even wanted to mediate the conflict - no one's gonna say that. You're just projecting on this one.
Aug 30, 2022·1 replylmfao
honestly one of the best accounts on here
- Aug 30, 2022·2 replies
Scratchin MambaWtf are you talking about he didn't even write about the famine you have no idea what you're talking about
I'm talking about actual mainstream academic non-communist historians like Getty, Kotkin, Davies & Wheatcroft who are actually specialized in Soviet history
It's generally accepted that stalins policy caused mass starvation and its also accepted that Ukraine was russified and oppressed
Does this mean it was intended to kill Ukrainians in deliberate genocide? No; but many did die
Aug 30, 2022·2 repliesTragedyBerlusconiIt's generally accepted that stalins policy caused mass starvation and its also accepted that Ukraine was russified and oppressed
Does this mean it was intended to kill Ukrainians in deliberate genocide? No; but many did die
His policy didn’t cause starvation but rather kulaks choosing to burn their goods rather than give them to the government because they didn’t like the policy
- Aug 30, 2022·2 repliesamericana
His policy didn’t cause starvation but rather kulaks choosing to burn their goods rather than give them to the government because they didn’t like the policy
Yeah and the tooth fairy is coming tonight as well
Mans lost touch with reality
Aug 30, 2022·2 repliesTragedyBerlusconiI mean while this is true I'm sure some of our more creative minds here would find a way to tar ukraine as both a nazi hellhoke and irs population and supporters simultaneously pro israel
Not commenting on Ukraine specifically, but are you really such a child that you actually believe the “how can you be fascist if you support Israel” s***
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
It's generally accepted that stalins policy caused mass starvation and its also accepted that Ukraine was russified and oppressed
Does this mean it was intended to kill Ukrainians in deliberate genocide? No; but many did die
Nobody denies that people didn't die dumbass people just don't believe in the "holodomor"
That whole bullshit shows the narcissism of Ukrainian nationalism, because Kazakhs and other people in the USSR suffered just as much from the famine, but yet it's supposed to be a genocide specirically targeting Ukrainians
- Aug 30, 2022Sir Real
Not commenting on Ukraine specifically, but are you really such a child that you actually believe the “how can you be fascist if you support Israel” s***
Liberals
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
When half of you deny holodomor; a few back Israeli settlement in the west bank, some believe Iraq was a success
I'm alone in being a normal person here
sad that you care more about being normal more than educating yourself when people are referring you to sources that explains wtf it is you're talking about
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replySir Real
Not commenting on Ukraine specifically, but are you really such a child that you actually believe the “how can you be fascist if you support Israel” s***
You can be fascist and support Israel sure
But you can't be a classic German national socialist and do it.
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Yeah and the tooth fairy is coming tonight as well
Mans lost touch with reality
Lmao he lost touch with reality for not accounting for the fact that wealthy peasants would rather destabilize their country than give up economic leverage ?
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
Nobody denies that people didn't die dumbass people just don't believe in the "holodomor"
That whole bullshit shows the narcissism of Ukrainian nationalism, because Kazakhs and other people in the USSR suffered just as much from the famine, but yet it's supposed to be a genocide specirically targeting Ukrainians
A man made famine that occurs alongside forceful russification of Ukraine
Sure it may not have been a deliberate genocide of Ukrainians but its understandable why they'd think it was
- Aug 30, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
You can be fascist and support Israel sure
But you can't be a classic German national socialist and do it.
“Classic German national socialist”
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replydeadacc
sad that you care more about being normal more than educating yourself when people are referring you to sources that explains wtf it is you're talking about
Its bullshit lol
- Aug 30, 2022americana
Lmao he lost touch with reality for not accounting for the fact that wealthy peasants would rather destabilize their country than give up economic leverage ?
This isnt what caused all those deaths. Youre being embarrassing
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
A man made famine that occurs alongside forceful russification of Ukraine
Sure it may not have been a deliberate genocide of Ukrainians but its understandable why they'd think it was
Then why don't Kazakhs make the same claims? The answer to this and many other things during this war as well is that Ukrainians think they're special because they're European and aspiring westerners, can't put in words how pathetic that is
Aug 30, 2022·1 replyFurther evidence that good politics can be reverse engineered through hatred of the UK
- Aug 30, 2022·1 reply
Imagine saying it's understandable that fascists in the US printed propaganda about a Ukrainian genocide, so normal!
- Aug 30, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
Its bullshit lol
the reason the "holodomor" even exists as a concept is because of fascist testimonies by western supported actual fascists that were debunked in 1938 openly.
ik u like to b argumentative and s*** cuz u get s*** on by everybody but holodomor and russification and s*** are really poor arguments that lean on the propaganda work of fascists. just stick to the moral ground that the invasion is bad you don't have to justify fascist rhetoric for some weird reason.
- Aug 30, 2022·3 repliesScratchin Mamba
Then why don't Kazakhs make the same claims? The answer to this and many other things during this war as well is that Ukrainians think they're special because they're European and aspiring westerners, can't put in words how pathetic that is
Because until recently the kazakh government been rimming Russia. Also I'll have to check sources but p sure Kazakhstan didn't have as strong a nationalist movement as ukraine at the time, making them less likely targets for man made famine
And yes Ukrainian mothers hiding in metro stations think they're special Europeans or some s*** whatever. Sorry Europe is a racist and oppressive continent but no need to s*** on victims
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Because until recently the kazakh government been rimming Russia. Also I'll have to check sources but p sure Kazakhstan didn't have as strong a nationalist movement as ukraine at the time, making them less likely targets for man made famine
And yes Ukrainian mothers hiding in metro stations think they're special Europeans or some s*** whatever. Sorry Europe is a racist and oppressive continent but no need to s*** on victims
No it's because literal fascists were trying to use Ukrainian nationalism to undermine the USSR dumbass read some actual history for once instead of victims of communism propaganda
US fascists literally printed out propaganda about a Ukrainian genocide before even Ukrainians themselves believed in that lie
- Aug 30, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
Because until recently the kazakh government been rimming Russia. Also I'll have to check sources but p sure Kazakhstan didn't have as strong a nationalist movement as ukraine at the time, making them less likely targets for man made famine
And yes Ukrainian mothers hiding in metro stations think they're special Europeans or some s*** whatever. Sorry Europe is a racist and oppressive continent but no need to s*** on victims
I’m back in London at 5:30 PM Saturday. Primarily going to be hanging in Brixton, let me know when you want to slide
- Aug 30, 2022·3 repliesScratchin Mamba
Imagine saying it's understandable that fascists in the US printed propaganda about a Ukrainian genocide, so normal!
You say this s*** to any Ukrainian anywhere on thr political spectrum, they would probably beat the s*** out of you
- Aug 30, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
You say this s*** to any Ukrainian anywhere on thr political spectrum, they would probably beat the s*** out of you
Oh nooo 😭😭
- Aug 30, 2022·2 repliesTragedyBerlusconi
You say this s*** to any Ukrainian anywhere on thr political spectrum, they would probably beat the s*** out of you
Literal videos of Ukrainians in the 1950s saying how they were starved out and you want to believe this stupid cope