ur so disingenuous holy s***.

do a google site:ktt2.com “orcs” and the only threads you’ll get is this one and unrelated non war threads

even then you never seen it use when to the IDF or american troops, it’s obviously connected to the russian ethnic identity

it’s y’all version of the eastern asiatic hordes

Russians and Ukrainians the sane race yiu dipshit

may bad should have just said the russian identity how about everything else i said now

I'm completely happy for American troops in Iraq or the idf to be called whatever insults Iraqis or Palestinians see fit provided it applies to soldiers and not the race of people, which orc does

If you dont want to be called an orc don't join a fascistbmilitary, don't wipe out entire villages and deport 10% of a countries population

That is the behaviour of a thug and an orc

but you didn’t use it before and i know your ass won’t use to em and your just saying you would so you can ignore the obvious racial or russophobia whatever it is dimension of Russians being mindless hordes

Russians aren't a mindless horde. The soldiers are a bunch of c***s though. It only started being said with the invasion. Hohol has a much longer history

Russia is a beautiful country with a beautiful language and fantastic cultural contributions. I hope when ukraine is free russia frees itself from the orcs too

@TragedyGhaddafi respond to this

seems pretty benign as far as insults go

especially because orc is said to soldiers. i come from the city mordor was based off and f*** am i gonna care if they call us mordor.

your explanation makes it soind less bad rather than worse

if anything it makes perfect sense to compare the russian government to sauron. what with the whole overbearing security apparatus

done

UK's Wallace: Russia 'Starting to Fail' in Ukraine War as Heavy Losses Mount

newsweek.com/russia-starting-fail-ukraine-war-heavy-losses-mount-wallace-1733083

I'm not saying it's racist, but you acknowledge the issue in the last part of your post. There's a difference between active acknowledgement of opposition and active dehumanization. Rhetoric doesn't exist in a vacuum. When you call soldiers - who are largely composed of a single nationality and origin - something, you are contributing to an unconscious view of the wider country and people, whether you know it or not. No one cares enough to read paragraphs explaining what you actually mean or what the word signifies. There's a reason chants of "DEATH TO AMERICA" in Iran which are largely supposed to be aimed at the US government rather than civilian population haven't had much success in garnering any form of sympathy literally at all from anyone in the west, and has instead contributed further to domestic US propaganda. War is not a spectacle. It's not fun and games to gawk at and find new ways of being snide and pointed. Don't act like there are not other people who are not actively using the current Russia rhetoric against the Russian ethnicity itself. Language contributes to that regardless of what your intention or explanation is. Do not be surprised when the average Russian civilian becomes even further radicalized through exposure to western rhetoric.

least bloodthirsty liberal

Least Russophobic German

they're german?

Yup

Genetics not chimney

Bro the germans have been Russian d***riders until now

Yeha you're probably right snd I accept it's true but also it's so difficult to not be outraged

But yes you're right dehumanisation is a terrible idea from every standpoint. Allows you to also disown your own negative qualities

Also while you're still correct, we can't act as if the Russians haven't done the same and probably worse jn description of Ukrainians already

Of course they have, it's been a state led effort to do so. I's also part of the state led effort to self-victimize Russia itself and act like it's some unrequited pariah state facing ethnic tension and unfair treatment worldwide. Regardless of your view on that stance, it's a self-reinforcing cycle. I'm not trying to say "everyone stop hating each other, love is the answer" or anything, as that's obviously not true, but I'm saying you have to be careful in picking your battles and in what rhetoric you put into the wild with what expectations you have in return. Especially when you're talking about situations like this.

*is racist to Russians while typing from the EU on a backwater Kanye west forum’s politics section *

Russophobia has a lot in common with anglophobia. Attach your own meaning to that

2 large empires that did way more oppression than they ever were oppressed

not really

anti-english sentiment largely came as a result of UK imperialism and the british empire, as well as associated religious tensions

russophobia really has nothing to historically do with backlash to russian empire imperialism. much of it historically is racial (anti-slavic) and ethnic (association of slavs with jews). the political backlash to russians abroad is largely something new within the past 10 years. inner-russia conflicts (i.e. chechnya) were largely localized by comparison, unlike anti-english sentiment which was far more broad. Places like the baltics, Armenia (not erally anymore though), Azerbaijan, and Georgia retain some level with tension with Russia, but it's not really comparable to anti-English sentiment like the troubles in northern ireland or the backlash in India to the Raj, it's way more explicitly political. you also can't really talk about "historically" without comparison and acknowledgement eastern europe immigrants - largely from russia - to europe and america being shoved into ghettos historically in contrast to the recent resurgence of weird ethnopolitical anti-russian sentiment though. russophobia historically and now are completely different things, the recent resurgence is more of actual bloodthirsty reactions from unrelated countries which even anti-english sentiment really has nothing to do with.