Europe obviously would prefer the former rather than latter, else they'd have dipped already

Europeans don't prefer being part of a US-based order, they don't even realize that they are a part of that. You're part of a rare breed of ideologically committed liberal Europeans that willingly admits they're cucked by Americans and that that's a good thing.

Ukrainians themselves even preferred neither until the US dragged them into a conflict with Russia.

how was Severodonetsk a “pyrrhic” victory lmao Russia already got Lysychansk like a week later

Pic doesn't work for me bro

did for me that's weird
It's the Lebron there's something real fishy going on tweet mainly in reference to all the billions being earmarked for Ukraine

I think the URL is blocked in the EU now that you mention it

A lot of US website don't bother to comply with EU cookie laws so they will just geoblock the websites, this especially happens with local newssites in the USA

That being said, RT is blocked by the EU itself

You didn't believe they would invade Ukraine tho

So you believe he will invade NATO countries as well lol?

Then what's the purpose of NATO?

the neutrality is actually the best option, but that's only in a vacuum

in reality ukraine has crazy neighbor with imperialist complex, who for centuries diluted ukrainian culture and history with propaganda so strong to make many ukrainians actually believe that they're real brothers with russians (that "friendly nations" concept you adore so much). the brothers who officially called ukrainians malorossy (basically the russian version of untermensch), appropriated ukrainian culture, eliminated ukrainian intellectuals and made ukrainian language an outsider at ukrainian land

sometimes i forget how little you ☭ weirdos & red rag fetishists know about ukraine. that "conflict with russia" started before US was even a thing smh

Nah he won't. But if Trump is in power again and abandons NATO who knows what will happen to NATO and thus the relationship between Europe and Russia

Even without the USA all the other NATO states spend more money on military than Russia, so even then i don't think Russia would act on it

But never say never with these r*tar*s in power

Russia was pro-US during the Yeltsin era and NATO still expanded.

True, and they'll go back into Georgia but can't see an invasion of a NATO state

Don't forget Moldova

True

and still expanding today

btw that putin talk about ukraine being a threat because of nato is the same bs as "saving donbas". but you didn't fall for it, right?

it's actually funny how it happens every time. first you ☭ dweebs said that russia won't start full-scale war with ukraine, just because russia denied that and yall alright ignoring the fact that invasion was already started in 2014. and when the full-scale war hitted, you weirdos said it was justified, because ukrainian non-relevant talks about nato were a big threat for russia who suffered from western world, ignoring the fact that nato rockets were already closer to kremlin than kharkiv even. and now finland and sweden making that botoxed midget, who believed that he is a great geo-politician & conqueror, the biggest сuсk

moldova is actually at risk right now without army. that PMR thing with 1500 clowns is not a big deal for southern ukrainian forces, so these b****es just waiting until the main russian forces made a corridor through mykolaiv to surround odesa which is not real now

so the alterplan could be the invasion in moldova to destabilize the region and expand PMR, if the things go wrong for them

This response has me dead for some reason. Reads funny as s***

Besides my point. It's stupid to say that supporting Ukraine in the war will lead to Ukrainians getting killed. If Russia advances into Ukraine, they will just kill the Ukrainians anyway, or deport them for slave labor.

I was wondering where Americana went. Makes a lot of sense now.

If Moldova is invaded, Romania gets involved. If Romania gets involved, Article 5 is triggered and WW3 begins.

Only if Romania gets attacked, not when they aid Moldova

But w Transnistria its a given Russia will try it eventually

1. Ukraine is a strategic threat to Russia by virtue of wanting to join the NATO while sharing a border to Russia. A big part of war is logistics, which is of course easier the closer you are to your enemy. Even rocket defense systems get out of whack when your enemy is much closer. What Russia does to counter this threat is the other question.

2. 2014 was not an invasion, but a civil war. The only invasion part was the annexation of Crimea, which happened without a fight. Both sides of the civil war having benefactors doesn't change this per se. It was of course also a cold war between Russia and the USA.

3. I'm not sure which communists you have spoken to, but there isn't any ideological reason that communists would have to support Putin. Opposition to certain aspects of how this war was handled doesn't equate support for Putin's nationalist drivel.

NATO is a defensive alliance, it’s only a strategic threat to Russia if Russia gives them a reason to invoke article 5

Communists support Putin because they both oppose the US