No I don't believe the women give permission.

But I do believe that a healthy portion of the a******s succumbing themselves to taking orders from the bald midget are capable of raping.

Now a confirmation from the Russians as well

They running away, but I thought it was an accident that the ship sank

Yeah and the guys evidence was a fake BBC report

Brother Khalqi down bad

Good take

Nope. Glory to Hetmanate evolved from the Hetmanate intellectual circles into Slava Ukraini once the Ukrainian intellectuals advocated for an Ukrainian identity in the 19th century. The phrase is much older than you're saying it is.

Can you please tell us how the slogan "Slava Ukraini" stems from nazi collaborators when the slogan has been in use during the 19th and 18th century.

Hey, not just the US arms suppliers are benefiting. The tech sector too!

Yes and the Swastika is just a symbol for good fortune and Runes are just pre-roman alphabet.

Stem from (phrasal verb)

Definition of stem from
: to be caused by (something or someone) : to come from (something or someone)
//Most of her health problems stem from an accident she had when she was younger.
//His love of the outdoors stems from his father.

Really good interview with a former UN official and NATO adviser:

thegrayzone.com/2022/04/15/us-eu-sacrificing-ukraine-to-weaken-russia-fmr-nato-adviser

no one connects "Slava Ukraini" to Nazis because the Ukrainian people haven't done anything to justify their national salute being compared to a swastika or Nazism it just so happens that Nazis are also patriotic and would therefore use the same salute, Unlike the Nazi swastika "Slava Ukraini" doesn't represent Nazism it represents the Ukrainian people

stop generalizing and being xenophobic

Ukranian nationalism is bad. Nationalism is bad.

His comparison also falls flat since the Nazi party used the swastika due to, in their minds, the symbol holding significant meaning for the Aryan race. They changed the meaning of the symbol to suit their means. Meanwhile the phrase Slava Ukraini has retained its etomological meaning of Ukrainian glory.

not saying anything he says is wrong necessarily, but keep in mind this guy is basically a career opportunist who floats around to various outlets to get his name out there to sell his books, so take it with a small grain of salt. he's the equivalent within this political sphere as to what people like those "retired military generals" @ MSNBC/Fox News are like. or "retired CIA agents" like Mike Baker are to Joe Rogan. it's very easy to use the western fetish for bureaucratic credentialism to sell yourself as a credible source for interviews from any angle.

The comparison was made to illustrate how history and context change the significance of symbols and phrases. For instance, when it became the official slogan of Nazi collaborationist elements in Ukraine such as Banderites.

Why libs need to cosplay as Ukranian nationalists sans introspection is pretty chilling to consider. It's kind of nuts how easily people have parroted these things.

news flash for you, all of the countries in the world have majority patriotic populations and just because they love their country and national identity doesn't mean they hate others and want to do bad things

Unlike Nazi germany the Ukrainian fascist party held no political power inside the Ukrainian territory. So your comparison would not work either way. And again you don't seem to understand that the etymological meaning of the phrase had stayed the same. Which is not the case for the swastika Nazi Germany employed.
And me a liberal? Lol

Yes and that's fine for a people to rally around a flag to repel an invading force. I mean sans moralism it's just necessary and logical. Unfortunately this specific phrase was mostly solidified when the invading force were the Nazis and some nasty nationalists embraced them. So to turn it on its head here and become Ukrainian nationalists yourselves because you saw it on Twitter and TV is naive, gross, etc.

It's incredible to me how easily this propaganda took root. Thankfully not with average people who are already just doing Wordle or complaining about gas or whatever. Nope, just too online libs who are weird.

I mean how more liberal can you get than obfuscating the legacy of pogroms and murders carried out by Ukranian fascists by pointing to electoralism. Doing this in wartime when the militant forces are the ones actually preserving autonomy and the governance is superficial is also really shortsighted.

The same oligarch who built Zelensky up on TV and funded his campaign also funded Azov who ran election monitoring for Zelensky's election. Then you have censorship against the history of legacy groups like OUN whose progeny have occupied important cabinet positions like education, security. I believe Azov policed over 20 cities in Ukraine.

how is it propaganda when we just explained it to you in the thread that it's origin predates Nazis, it hasn't changed it's meaning, it stands for national identity known as a symbol of Ukrainian sovereignty and resistance and the reason it's used now is that the same Nation that was suppressing it 100 years ago is invading them again today and is fighting against their national identity and sovereignty

it never stood for Nazism it just so happens that Nazis also share the same patriotic values like the rest of the country which is expected in a time of war, but even in time of peace most people in a nation are patriotic

ah yes it's always the Azov battalion of 1000 people with teleportation powers that do these things

I don't care if it's propaganda. That's the lazy critique you guys call everything you disagree with. Not the issue. I'm not a Ukranian nationalist and won't be embracing Ukranian nationalist slogans that appear in such places as monuments which commemorate the slaughter of Jews and Poles. I like to be a little more nuanced with where my sympathies lie. If you want your own "Z" then have fun.

You saw the word Azov and the rest of the paragraph, its many working parts, its perceived opposite ideologies working together, its broader implications- like dust in the wind. I can only lead horses to water.