May 26·3 repliesI’m not following the convo fully, but Iceman might be Drake’s most thematic and narrative driven album, even if you think the theme/narrative is bullshit.
May 26·4 replies
AisosaLoool, they're the exact same thing.
One just has a forced homonym while the other doesn't.
Artery, vein, heartbeat
Iraq, Dubai, Middle EasternNot the exact same thing, those Drake bars are as deep as it gets. You hear it once, you catching it. Those Jay-Z lines have this wordplay, plus flipping "Bane of my existence" and tying it to Gotham. You missed some of this while trying to critique it
Not saying that's ALL of the bars on Iceman, there is some clever writing
But a lot of it is bogged down by these silly lines that you won't hear Jay-Z spitting- May 26STEPPA PIG
Not the exact same thing, those Drake bars are as deep as it gets. You hear it once, you catching it. Those Jay-Z lines have this wordplay, plus flipping "Bane of my existence" and tying it to Gotham. You missed some of this while trying to critique it
Not saying that's ALL of the bars on Iceman, there is some clever writing
But a lot of it is bogged down by these silly lines that you won't hear Jay-Z spittingLoool, Jay Z has tons of silly lines.
Put down your Dinner With Hov glasses for a minute
- May 26·1 replyAisosa
You're 100 percent right.
I wouldn't have gotten into this conversation of he wasn't trying to use Jay Z lines to bring Drake down.
I don't like either of them but facts are facts.
This convo started because someone said rappers like Lupe/Freddie Gibbs would be impressed by the rapping on Iceman, I pointed out some of the bars I think are weak on Iceman, he asked me to post some of the rapping I think is great, I posted Mural and Marcy Me, 2words said Make Them Pay/Remember better than Hov's rapping on Marcy Me, here we are
- May 26STEPPA PIG
This convo started because someone said rappers like Lupe/Freddie Gibbs would be impressed by the rapping on Iceman, I pointed out some of the bars I think are weak on Iceman, he asked me to post some of the rapping I think is great, I posted Mural and Marcy Me, 2words said Make Them Pay/Remember better than Hov's rapping on Marcy Me, here we are
Oh, I didn't go that far. Let's let this end then.
- May 26·1 replyAisosa
No, you idiot.
You don't randomly reference abortions in a song about your roots and pretend like it carries on a theme about your wife's miscarriage.
Do you know the difference between an abortion and a miscarriage?
You're getting too tied up on the abort part
When Lisa Bonet was Beyoncé of her day, I had divas, y'all
Think I just popped up in this b**** like a fetus? Nah
Pregnant pause, give you some second thoughtsBeyonce -> fetus -> pregnant pause. You don't think this is intentional to reference some of the lyrics on the title track and album?
May 26·1 replySTEPPA PIGHold the Uzi vertical
Let the thing smoke
Y'all flirting with death
I be winking through the scopeI haven't pointed out everything on the song. And this is just one 3 minute song, y'all pulling from all over Iceman to say Drake pen better
Where on 4:44 do we have basic bars like "greater than everybody like some shredded cheese", "YM in CA like the village people", "Used to be a nice man now I'm hot and cold", "What kind of man are you? A middle one" ?
I highly doubt Hov still creates his own lyrics
, Lupe Fiasco wrote several tracks for "The Black Album" and now Hov is even MORE RICH, which means less chance of him creating his own lyrics.
May 26STEPPA PIGNot the exact same thing, those Drake bars are as deep as it gets. You hear it once, you catching it. Those Jay-Z lines have this wordplay, plus flipping "Bane of my existence" and tying it to Gotham. You missed some of this while trying to critique it
Not saying that's ALL of the bars on Iceman, there is some clever writing
But a lot of it is bogged down by these silly lines that you won't hear Jay-Z spittingsilly lines are fun
it doesnt have to be seriousplus drake a funny guy anyway, jayz always been more serious
- May 26STEPPA PIG
You're getting too tied up on the abort part
When Lisa Bonet was Beyoncé of her day, I had divas, y'all
Think I just popped up in this b**** like a fetus? Nah
Pregnant pause, give you some second thoughtsBeyonce -> fetus -> pregnant pause. You don't think this is intentional to reference some of the lyrics on the title track and album?
No, it's not.
I'll explain why when I get back on later.
- May 26ChosenOne90
I highly doubt Hov still creates his own lyrics
, Lupe Fiasco wrote several tracks for "The Black Album" and now Hov is even MORE RICH, which means less chance of him creating his own lyrics.Very questionable angle to take in defense of Drake, ngl
- May 26STEPPA PIG
Not the exact same thing, those Drake bars are as deep as it gets. You hear it once, you catching it. Those Jay-Z lines have this wordplay, plus flipping "Bane of my existence" and tying it to Gotham. You missed some of this while trying to critique it
Not saying that's ALL of the bars on Iceman, there is some clever writing
But a lot of it is bogged down by these silly lines that you won't hear Jay-Z spittingI'm an animal, half man half mammal.
May 26·1 replyLOOOOOL SHABANG THE HARDEST BEAT EVER LMAOOO
May 26Iceman Top 5 Drake album all time.
May 26
SyIIabIesI mean Tyler’s don’t tap the glass was worst than chrom isn’t wrong
I had dont tap more in rotation tbh
May 26There are so many hits on this
May 26Palestinian OoziI’m not following the convo fully, but Iceman might be Drake’s most thematic and narrative driven album, even if you think the theme/narrative is bullshit.
very thematic
- May 26·2 repliesSTEPPA PIG
Not the exact same thing, those Drake bars are as deep as it gets. You hear it once, you catching it. Those Jay-Z lines have this wordplay, plus flipping "Bane of my existence" and tying it to Gotham. You missed some of this while trying to critique it
Not saying that's ALL of the bars on Iceman, there is some clever writing
But a lot of it is bogged down by these silly lines that you won't hear Jay-Z spittingYou did not catch Kim being Noel and Kris being Kringle on first listen
May 26Palestinian OoziI’m not following the convo fully, but Iceman might be Drake’s most thematic and narrative driven album, even if you think the theme/narrative is bullshit.
i think thats what makes a full playthrough feel so quick
the pacing is perfect
May 26·1 replyTiliaYou did not catch Kim being Noel and Kris being Kringle on first listen
Read your post and was thinking "
wtf is this breh talking about?"
Just googled Kim's second name lol. This brudda Drake is too slick lol, layered enough where there's some plausible deniability too lol
- May 26·1 replyAlbert Grindstein
LOOOOOL SHABANG THE HARDEST BEAT EVER LMAOOO
thank you based Maneesh 🇮🇳🇨🇦
- May 26·1 replyTiigre
thank you based Maneesh 🇮🇳🇨🇦
and 40*
- May 26Albert Grindstein
and 40*
- May 26
May 26twistin it
May 26That take out the AK line is wild