YA ICEMAN ACE

6mo

I really do see both sides of this one. On one hand nobody is gonna stop putting ICE cubes in their drinks out of solidarity, people with pre-established names and nicknames that have ICE in them wouldn’t be expected to change them, etc.

But I can also understand the argument that introducing a new nickname and potential album name calling yourself the “ICE man” at this exact moment in time (for both the world and Drake’s comeback from the gross associations that both his peers and music audiences have put on him over the last few years) is probably in poor taste.

thegreatdivine

6mo

How does that relate to people online now only having an issue with Drake calling his album Iceman and demanding he changes it? If it's not performative, why aren't they demanding everybody who has any names or brands associated with the word "ice" to change it as well because of recent events?

What's happening with ICE/immigration in the US is terrible, no one is saying otherwise. But complaining about Drake calling his album Iceman, a title that he's been associated with before Trump took office for the second term and this s*** got out of hand, a title we all know Drake didn't associate himself with because of ICE or its agents, is ridiculous.

coldfire

6mo

In 2016, I sent ramriddlz some beats and jaegan messaged me asking for the sample I used on one of the beats. I posted on ktt1 about if I should trust “this producer”. My dumb ass thought I censored jaegan’s name on the screenshot. Some idiot saw that and dm’d jaegan the thread. He messages me and tells me to f*** off I’ll never work with ram and him.

chosenoneee

6mo

why do people still give these pages credit?

YA ICEMAN ACE

6mo

That’s always what I’d assumed tbh. This era’s nickname. It really wouldn’t be a great album title regardless of the other associations

WINTER

6mo

actually?

coldfire

6mo

In 2016, I sent ramriddlz some beats and jaegan messaged me asking for the sample I used on one of the beats. I posted on ktt1 about if I should trust “this producer”. My dumb ass thought I censored jaegan’s name on the screenshot. Some idiot saw that and dm’d jaegan the thread. He messages me and tells me to f*** off I’ll never work with ram and him.

thegreatdivine

6mo

Drake has an album titled Certified Lover Boy but you think Iceman would be a bad album title regardless of the other associations? Lmao smh.

SABMAN TURNT

6mo

Ice Spice, Ice Cube, Ice-T, etc. had that name pre-2025

to the average person who only listens to Spotify playlists & has never heard of “OVO Sound Radio” or “Sound42”, Drake has never called himself Iceman before, but he plans on debuting that title at a time when every sensible human hates ICE with a passion

it would be like branding yourself with a swastika in the middle of WW2 and saying “it’s the peace symbol, i’m not a nazi”

while you might be telling the truth, you’re never beating the “he’s definitely a nazi” accusations after doing so

vayla

6mo

Sending this screenshot to him

SABMAN TURNT

6mo

Ice Spice, Ice Cube, Ice-T, etc. had that name pre-2025

to the average person who only listens to Spotify playlists & has never heard of “OVO Sound Radio” or “Sound42”, Drake has never called himself Iceman before, but he plans on debuting that title at a time when every sensible human hates ICE with a passion

it would be like branding yourself with a swastika in the middle of WW2 and saying “it’s the peace symbol, i’m not a nazi”

while you might be telling the truth, you’re never beating the “he’s definitely a nazi” accusations after doing so

YA ICEMAN ACE

6mo

I really do see both sides of this one. On one hand nobody is gonna stop putting ICE cubes in their drinks out of solidarity, people with pre-established names and nicknames that have ICE in them wouldn’t be expected to change them, etc.

But I can also understand the argument that introducing a new nickname and potential album name calling yourself the “ICE man” at this exact moment in time (for both the world and Drake’s comeback from the gross associations that both his peers and music audiences have put on him over the last few years) is probably in poor taste.

SABMAN TURNT

6mo

they’ve also kidnapped my child and won’t let me see him unless i keep agenda posting in here

Abyss

6mo

To be fair Ice Spice didn't choose her name when all this s*** was happening. When Drake releases the album, most of the casual audience will see the Iceman name for the first time. I can see some backlash on social media coming from all types of audiences that hate Drake or don't care about his music. But overall it won't affect anything. If the album is good, no one will care.

thegreatdivine

6mo

It's not in poor taste because Drake has been associated with the term "Iceman" since at least 2023. We know he doesn't use that term in relation to actual ICE or its agents so how is it in poor taste? Drake has a lot of immigrant friends. Except you think he somehow condones what ICE are doing, why would you think of that in association with a name he's been tied to for the better part of 3 years now?

There's an NFL player whose nickname is The Iceman and it'll remain The Iceman because anyone with a clear mind knows that nickname has no relation to ICE or its agents. It's just a f***ing nickname.

thegreatdivine

6mo

Drake isn't new to backlash. The only people I see insisting he changes the name are people who don't already like him and are using it as something to criticize him for. They don't actually give a f***. They're just using it as another sticking point for him being "insensitive about the times" like Iceman hasn't been associated with Drake since at least 2023. It's not something he just embraced.

thegreatdivine

6mo

Drake isn't new to backlash. The only people I see insisting he changes the name are people who don't already like him and are using it as something to criticize him for. They don't actually give a f***. They're just using it as another sticking point for him being "insensitive about the times" like Iceman hasn't been associated with Drake since at least 2023. It's not something he just embraced.

thegreatdivine

6mo

Well, that's not true. The average Drake fan, knows Iceman has been the tentative working title of his forthcoming album for years now. He's been referring to himself as Iceman since at least 2024. He's been rocking Iceman merch on tour since 2023.

And even if he doesn't title the album Iceman, that's already a nickname he has fully embraced for this era and I assume moving forward (because he still refers to himself as 6 God, The Boy, etc — all nicknames he embraced years ago) so he isn't stopping association with the term.

Him changing the title of his album would be performative and Drake doesn't do performative s***. I believe Drake fans know his album title isn't in any relation to I.C.E. or their agents so anyone else who wants to take that name out of turn and let it upset them can have at it.

thegreatdivine

6mo

Drake isn't new to backlash. The only people I see insisting he changes the name are people who don't already like him and are using it as something to criticize him for. They don't actually give a f***. They're just using it as another sticking point for him being "insensitive about the times" like Iceman hasn't been associated with Drake since at least 2023. It's not something he just embraced.

TheFader

6mo

“Drake isn’t new to backlash so he should keep the title of his album that shares a word with the KKK-esque government force currently deployed in a major city assassinating people”

thegreatdivine

6mo

Well, that's not true. The average Drake fan, knows Iceman has been the tentative working title of his forthcoming album for years now. He's been referring to himself as Iceman since at least 2024. He's been rocking Iceman merch on tour since 2023.

And even if he doesn't title the album Iceman, that's already a nickname he has fully embraced for this era and I assume moving forward (because he still refers to himself as 6 God, The Boy, etc — all nicknames he embraced years ago) so he isn't stopping association with the term.

Him changing the title of his album would be performative and Drake doesn't do performative s***. I believe Drake fans know his album title isn't in any relation to I.C.E. or their agents so anyone else who wants to take that name out of turn and let it upset them can have at it.

thegreatdivine

6mo

Does ICE spice need to change her name as well? What about ICE-t? Should everyone in America stop taking ICE cream now?

Yeah, that's how stupid you sound.

doot doot

6mo

They held me at a CIA black site in Uzbekistan forcing me to listen to We Cry Together on a 24/7 365 loop until I said TPAB was a classic