of course gun control would help dumbass
How is gun control gonna stop a kid from stealing a gun?
How is gun control gonna stop a kid that don't got a record or any mental red flags from legally buying a gun?
no president/administration has ever outright asked "why do white men cause so much violence in schools?"
Right now the school need blame bro talking about they seem the concern but it’s nothing serious f*** all that they shoulda took it serious a black kid showing guns on social media a problem but a white mid posting all that weird ass s*** with a f***ing countdown and nothing happen wtf type s*** is that bro
as in what would happen if you had majority house senate and presidency and Supreme Court was not an issue?
its the democrats. we'd get mental health checks, maybe a sales ban on some of the more egregious assault weapons and that's basically it
even the most left democrats would never even seriously consider anything that is gonna take people's existing guns away
It's unenforcable. Having guns isn't why people do mass casualty events. They seek out guns to do them or vehicles or whatever is at hand.
I'm not anti-gun in general but if it leads to the balkanization of the US, good
when I was younger I too thought gun control could stop school shootings but man that's not gonna do s***.
Nor is blaming the mentally ill/quiet kid stereotype gonna stop school shootings either because it's insulting and two, if every social outcast was looked at as a threat than every minority kid from this point on would be public enemy #1.
What you gotta look at is the source of this s***, why is it consistently the same demographic?
gun control would help

every red dot is a shooting that would at least be somewhat affected by a gun control bill banning straw purchases, forcing safe storage, banning assault weapons, mandatory background checks and a red flag law
obviously not all (none) of those are realistic to happen and even in a situation where they did happen people still find ways to get guns but those will at least limit the access to the weapons that can just mass kill
the root of the problem still has to get addressed but gun control will definitely help
How is gun control gonna stop a kid from stealing a gun?
How is gun control gonna stop a kid that don't got a record or any mental red flags from legally buying a gun?
it won't and it won't
but stealing a gun is a lot harder than buying a gun and the truth is the vast vast majority of people who shoot up schools had serious red flags
It's unenforcable. Having guns isn't why people do mass casualty events. They seek out guns to do them or vehicles or whatever is at hand.
I'm not anti-gun in general but if it leads to the balkanization of the US, good
yea most gun control propositions are definitely unenforceable
but it makes access to those kinda guns harder
it won't stop kids from shooting up schools
but it might stop kids from shooting up schools with AR-15s and that helps a little at least
it won't and it won't
but stealing a gun is a lot harder than buying a gun and the truth is the vast vast majority of people who shoot up schools had serious red flags
But how many of those serious red flags could apply to other kids that just....don't have the urge to shoot up a school?
For god's sake, Columbine had people thinking every kid that was quiet was a f***ing threat to shoot a school to the point it's become a meme/popular joke now (even though the killers were actually quite popular)
the fact that this hasn't even touched the news cycle is insane
Has it not? There’s articles on CNN, fox, wapo, etc
But how many of those serious red flags could apply to other kids that just....don't have the urge to shoot up a school?
For god's sake, Columbine had people thinking every kid that was quiet was a f***ing threat to shoot a school to the point it's become a meme/popular joke now (even though the killers were actually quite popular)
they may well apply to other kids who don't have the urge to shoot up a school
but what's the harm done in those red flags applying to those kids? those kids don't need guns either
Has it not? There’s articles on CNN, fox, wapo, etc
articles arent the same as the CNN newsroom. i think i saw a mention of it yesterday but theres like nothing
But how many of those serious red flags could apply to other kids that just....don't have the urge to shoot up a school?
For god's sake, Columbine had people thinking every kid that was quiet was a f***ing threat to shoot a school to the point it's become a meme/popular joke now (even though the killers were actually quite popular)
i think this is a far bigger social issue than you're conceiving it to be
when I was younger I too thought gun control could stop school shootings but man that's not gonna do s***.
Nor is blaming the mentally ill/quiet kid stereotype gonna stop school shootings either because it's insulting and two, if every social outcast was looked at as a threat than every minority kid from this point on would be public enemy #1.
What you gotta look at is the source of this s***, why is it consistently the same demographic?
I feel like in a lot of these cases warning signs are there. Kid having a whole ass countdown on his ig while referencing the severed deer head should have been a huge red flag for the administration. Which leads to the next point about schools being understaffed. In addition to more counselors, schools should have "virtual security guards" as well, imo with finstas and alt twitter accounts.
How is gun control gonna stop a kid from stealing a gun?
How is gun control gonna stop a kid that don't got a record or any mental red flags from legally buying a gun?
Are you serious
Stealing a gun from his dad is exactly the type of situation that calls for gun control
I believe in some states they have laws stating guns need to be locked away when not in use
That's a type of gun control fam
How is gun control gonna stop a kid from stealing a gun?
How is gun control gonna stop a kid that don't got a record or any mental red flags from legally buying a gun?
the more difficult the less likely it is to happen. In countries that introduced gun control laws even suicide rates went down since other means of suicide are much more difficult and less people will pull through than simply pulling a trigger.
Just because something isnt 100% protective and secure doesnt mean the attempt itself couldnt help.
America is a huge country and has a idiotic gun culture of course the mass shootings wouldnt go to 0. Especially because they would do the laws as half assed as possible. Doesnt mean they wouldnt decline.
Now stop it with this chewed up ass argument
I feel like in a lot of these cases warning signs are there. Kid having a whole ass countdown on his ig while referencing the severed deer head should have been a huge red flag for the administration. Which leads to the next point about schools being understaffed. In addition to more counselors, schools should have "virtual security guards" as well, imo with finstas and alt twitter accounts.
virtual security guards.
So we now really turning school into a 24/7 prison watch. :word:
might as well have armed bodyguards outside of every f***ing classroom and every hallway while you at it lol.
the way america is structured right now is
and its this set list of problems created by overarching mechanisms that leads to mental health problems, the lack of an effective response, and a buildup to terrible events like these
the more difficult the less likely it is to happen. In countries that introduced gun control laws even suicide rates went down since other means of suicide are much more difficult and less people will pull through than simply pulling a trigger.
Just because something isnt 100% protective and secure doesnt mean the attempt itself couldnt help.
America is a huge country and has a idiotic gun culture of course the mass shootings wouldnt go to 0. Especially because they would do the laws as half assed as possible. Doesnt mean they wouldnt decline.
Now stop it with this chewed up ass argument
Fam I don't even f*** with guns. Nor would I ever want to own one (I do think black people as a whole need to buy more though)
I'm telling you as a nigga that grew up in Georgia around rednecks and cacs that hung barack obama effigies at a gas station that a mandatory nation wide assault weapons ban would result in a legit second civil war bro lol.
Fam I don't even f*** with guns. Nor would I ever want to own one (I do think black people as a whole need to buy more though)
I'm telling you as a nigga that grew up in Georgia around rednecks and cacs that hung barack obama effigies at a gas station that a mandatory nation wide assault weapons ban would result in a legit second civil war bro lol.
Given America's age were honestly about due for a second Civil War
Fam I don't even f*** with guns. Nor would I ever want to own one (I do think black people as a whole need to buy more though)
I'm telling you as a nigga that grew up in Georgia around rednecks and cacs that hung barack obama effigies at a gas station that a mandatory nation wide assault weapons ban would result in a legit second civil war bro lol.
cant you hear how u sound lol?
Embarassing lot
The best thing said so far in this thread was @PapiPedro and the understaffing of schools. There should definitely be therapists from the age of...fucking kindergarten tbfh.
Once again, that blood is on the hands of a county that won't even have the decency to take just one trillion dollars out of the goddamn military budget and put that into the woefully underfunded public education system.
Wtf
Like bought it for him specifically to shoot up the school? Or just bought it for him generally
I don’t wanna throw stuff around but if the kid is the same account they found, the kid was counting down for 10 days
Fam I don't even f*** with guns. Nor would I ever want to own one (I do think black people as a whole need to buy more though)
I'm telling you as a nigga that grew up in Georgia around rednecks and cacs that hung barack obama effigies at a gas station that a mandatory nation wide assault weapons ban would result in a legit second civil war bro lol.
Ok? Like umar said some folks gotta be put to sleep to take back our neighborhood/nation. U don’t wanna hear that cause u don’t live in reality. Some of them need to go to sleep FOR GOOD