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3y

I don’t think anyone talking about these is condoning his actions, in the same way people can read hitler’s statements about being inspired by the American genocide of Indigenous Americans and understand that he was right about America committing a genocide completely despite extrapolating that fact and plugging it into something insane

Rather, it’s important to understand that a large part of Osama’s rhetoric was founded on a history of American and Western imperialism that usurped a lot of Arab and Muslim self determination

It doesn’t make 9/11 justified or deserved, but to say that this kind of thing wasn’t motivated by what happened in the past and was just some random snowball of anti-Western Muslim thought is ahistorical

soapmanwun

3y

Osama when he wrote that letter

TsunamiPapi

3y

America and Israel big evil

ellie

3y

Things that Americans find profound are:

1. things that intellectuals and scholars have been saying to try to educate the public but were ignored and/or ridiculed because it was nerdy and it wasn't cool or trendy to talk about

• this bin laden s***
• literally anything political (palestine, ukraine, BLM, etc.) name literally any social or political movement that ever was a thing on social media, and then look up credible sources with extensive information that date back f***ing decades

2. anything said in a way that sounds "intelligent" and "charismatic" by someone who isn't very bright or easy manipulated (most people atp) (this is why podcasts full of common sense or horseshit is so popular and widely accepted as deep and profound)

• red pill, blue pill
• that weird niche of wannabe entrepreneur business alpha male s*** that talks about "the grind" and "alpha mindset"
• other cults of personalities
• people talking about stuff they have surface-level knowledge about but they're wearing glasses and have motivation music playing in the background so it's smart (people on tiktok being "psychology experts", people talking about sociopolitical issues they JUST saw one tiktok about and think they know everything there is about it)

3. anything said or done by someone who is attractive (no wonder psyops work on you, and why s*** is so heavily glamourized)

• that period where people were thirst trapping people like Cameron Herrin (street-raced and killed a mother and her baby)
• people "understanding" serial killers and extremists because they find them attractive in some way

4. anything that you already think and is said by someone else, so it feels validating

• people "understanding" and agreeing with ted kaczynski because he talks about ideologies that are "fuck the police"-y and anti-establishment and self-proclaimed anarchists ran with it

5. anything that is anti-establishment because it's cool and edgy and trendy and its cute and cool to "be a commie"

• i literally cannot believe bimbo communism and girlboss marxists are actual things

6. anything that plays on your heartstrings that is usually so far removed from the actual practice/belief that it's just a watered down, drawn-from-memory version of what it actually was

• trendy astrology, tarot, witchcraft, spirituality, manifesting, crystals, etc.

7. conspiracy theories

• i remember when the flight crash brace position became a conspiracy theory of mass murder, essentially. fun times.

and then they take all of this and smugly consider themselves enlightened experts and trailblazers and go on their educating crusades that spread misinformation

ellie

3y

Things that Americans find profound are:

1. things that intellectuals and scholars have been saying to try to educate the public but were ignored and/or ridiculed because it was nerdy and it wasn't cool or trendy to talk about

• this bin laden s***
• literally anything political (palestine, ukraine, BLM, etc.) name literally any social or political movement that ever was a thing on social media, and then look up credible sources with extensive information that date back f***ing decades

2. anything said in a way that sounds "intelligent" and "charismatic" by someone who isn't very bright or easy manipulated (most people atp) (this is why podcasts full of common sense or horseshit is so popular and widely accepted as deep and profound)

• red pill, blue pill
• that weird niche of wannabe entrepreneur business alpha male s*** that talks about "the grind" and "alpha mindset"
• other cults of personalities
• people talking about stuff they have surface-level knowledge about but they're wearing glasses and have motivation music playing in the background so it's smart (people on tiktok being "psychology experts", people talking about sociopolitical issues they JUST saw one tiktok about and think they know everything there is about it)

3. anything said or done by someone who is attractive (no wonder psyops work on you, and why s*** is so heavily glamourized)

• that period where people were thirst trapping people like Cameron Herrin (street-raced and killed a mother and her baby)
• people "understanding" serial killers and extremists because they find them attractive in some way

4. anything that you already think and is said by someone else, so it feels validating

• people "understanding" and agreeing with ted kaczynski because he talks about ideologies that are "fuck the police"-y and anti-establishment and self-proclaimed anarchists ran with it

5. anything that is anti-establishment because it's cool and edgy and trendy and its cute and cool to "be a commie"

• i literally cannot believe bimbo communism and girlboss marxists are actual things

6. anything that plays on your heartstrings that is usually so far removed from the actual practice/belief that it's just a watered down, drawn-from-memory version of what it actually was

• trendy astrology, tarot, witchcraft, spirituality, manifesting, crystals, etc.

7. conspiracy theories

• i remember when the flight crash brace position became a conspiracy theory of mass murder, essentially. fun times.

and then they take all of this and smugly consider themselves enlightened experts and trailblazers and go on their educating crusades that spread misinformation