Kat could dodge because of his DF that comparison is invalid. And I’m confused why you think his durability and endurance is better when Zoro is literally known for getting injured heavily in an arc and that injury carrying over for at least the next arc as well.

And he wasn’t unconsciously using it, it was just when he used Ashura this one time in my opinion (need more clarification on this)

I think you made a mistake here not sure what you mean? Also that's the whole point, guy continues to fight at a high level while injured nearly every arc.

Also man left a permanent scar, with no training or haki blooming and you want to reduce that to just enma? Wild.

Kat not Zoro first word is the mistake you’re talking about.

But that’s also false, Zoro does not keep on fighting that next arc he’s usually a liability. Like in Sabaody he was gassed from taking Luffy’s pain and he was the first one caught and would’ve been killed by Kizaru. Arlington Park he had to fight the 3rd commander and Sanji 2nd.

And the scar is 60% Enma and 40% CoC Ashura. It’s a fact he’s not doing any of this without Enma.

To end this all Luffy needs is Bound Man or Snake Man at the start of post ts and Zoro loses ez clap.

lol it's funny that you say that when there are literally only 2 arcs to reference in which both were caused by warlords who was 100x times stronger than him at the time and in both cases he was able to fight afterwards (hachi & pacifista).

Also talk to me about post-timeskip how many times has be been injured or a liability?

so you are one of these guys who thinks Enma and Oden are fighting. 60% lool where do you pull this number from. Kaido said CoC not Enma haha. Just say you hate Zoro and i'll understand.

Even if you think he getting clapped Zoro is surviving the timelimit no and then washes him. He's never beaten a commander level fighter or higher with one round of G4.

Omg it's legit people that think Zoro is on the same level as Luffy. Please Stop.

He definitely trained off screen with Enma or we going to ignore when he was on the cliff trying to get Enma under control.

That's minor, was like what a couple days to get used to the sword.

CoC is down to the character though, that was the clear difference this chapter hence the title.

Most one piece training is done off screen regardless so he didn't just have a small time with Enma. All this chapter show is Zoro still isn't anywhere close to Luffy and I don't think he has CoC. Emma is literally the reason Zoro is capable of doing damage to Kaido.

If this and your post above is implying I think that he's above Luffy. Then you are wrong, I've never said that.

Also you are wrong thinking that enma is the reason when Kaido literally said it's due to CoC. Unless you think Enma gave him CoC too lmao

Zoro has conquers haki he’s not so far behind luffy but yes luffy is still the lead. And he still haven’t used Enma to it’s full potential yet.

incredible chapter.

a lot of people I have spoken with always mention how female characters in anime/manga have terrible character development, usually a love interest, fan service, etc. (sakura, orihime, mikasa, hinata, etc.)

not trying to be a simp, but the development of female characters in one piece is f***ing crazy. they aren't love interests, fanservice is there, sure, but it isn't there only purpose. there are so many great female leads:

nami
nico robin
big mom
vivi
rebecca
jewelry bonnie
boa hancock

just to name a few. all these characters matter, and they're all strong female leads. it's just funny to me that so many people who haven't watched/read one piece have no f***ing clue. overall Oda is goated.

My single post wasn't towards you.

Yes because it wasn't Zoro's CoC. Enma is literally dripping still in Chaden's Haki. Zoro explained a long time ago that Swords that are turned black still holds onto the power of it's previous user.

Nah I don't think Zoro has Conquers Haki.

And I'm not on a Zoro or anybody fan base. I love Zoro. But nah I don't think Zoro has Conquers Haki.

I honestly think we should wait until the official translation come out.

Kaido confirmed it. And I feel like enma just really only unlocked that potential in him to awaken it. It’s not coming from Enma, Enma is just the stepping stone

Only reason why I still say this because people is ignoring a panel that show Enma again glowing and Haki flowing off it again. Emma is also the blade that cut Kaido when Oden used it. I legit don't think it's Zoro's CoC.

You think Ashura is a 1 sword attack too huh?

Retaining haki has nothing to do with CoC, also if you think that tell me why this never happened with Shusei another black blade from a stronger character Ryuma?

Another Zoro hater exposing himself smh.

Need Oda to get with Togashi so we can flesh out this haki talk once and for all

One piece power scaling discussions are the worst man, I know everyone has their own head canon but so much of the discussion is people pulling s*** out of their whole ass

In Enies lobby zoro specifically states that luffy instinctively gravitates towards the opponents the rest of the crew can’t handle, himself included

Now personally I think zoro has conquerors and it’s been foreshadowed. What I don’t think is that conquerors makes you automatically stronger than someone who doesn’t have it so a lot of peoples powerscaling is flawed

Rogers crew had 3-5 people with conquerors haki on it depending on if you count shanks (kid) and bullet (non-canon?). So I think people should get used to the idea of multiple straw hats awakening it

Nah there’s a big gap between current Luffy & Zoro.

Luffy has advanced application of every type of haki... Zoro has the basic level of them all and Enma.

Y’all really downplaying Luffy lol.

Remind me again when Zoro has shown observation? I know he's done it before but it's a situation where he's better at armament than observation where as Sanji's observation > armament

In Dressrosa when he was looking for Pica.

But yea most characters specialize in a specific type of Haki. Zoro is Armament and Sanji is Observation. Sanji has better Observation than Zoro.

Yup I remember now, thanks. Dressrosa was also where we saw Usopp unlock his observation too correct?

Yep