sabbatical_

6y

yes billy is more artistic or say more poetic than them i mean on the level of literary poets.
Ka i more technical in rhymes and dense wordplay.

but i prefer to listen to mach more than those two as mach in more eccentric has f***ing dope flows and just has awesome beat selection.

AFTAWeRDZ

6y

HEY DWINDLER . LOL 3rd Times a charm ! Now read the last 2 sentences, where he admits the obvious. DWINDLER

Marcus is Dust

6y

Sorry to be like this, but this discussion exemplifies the difficulty of ranking and qualifying artists.. it’s just too many factors to actually rank these top 4 or 5 in one category...

Like as far as pen game/“bars” it’s Ka.

For just slick talk and flow, it’s Roc all day

For storytelling/esoteric vibe it’s billy woods

For sense of humor/multilingual s***/dense, obscure writing, it’s Mach.

They all got different bags, so it comes down to preference.

(But Ka’s the best)

phil trout

6y

I like how this thread has just become the underground lmao. Extensive convos about ka billy fahim jah monte rome and more.. that’s tight

AFTAWeRDZ

6y

Okay brother. I do consider Daringer as like the new DJ Premier AND CONWAY LULu hmmm SOLID

AFTAWeRDZ

6y

Okay brother. I do consider Daringer as like the new DJ Premier AND CONWAY LULu hmmm SOLID

phil trout

6y

id put alc over daringer in the prem discussion..

viscera

6y

blasphemy lol

sabbatical_

6y

to clarify these 3 are in my top 10

billy woods lyrics are very poetic,as in he doesnt always follow the classic end word rhymes but more about how dense he can get
with the bars. His lyrics need to be read and require attention to most level. his flow is also very weird and isnt as lustrous as say mach.
His abstract lyrics really go along with that type of flow. his subject matter goes into criticism of race and class as institutions.
in that sense billy is the best as in he does a lot with a lot less words than any other rapper without being pretentious.also he seems to be
the most well read rapper as his rhymes are littered with reference to classic as well as contemporary writers in a way that it adds to the lyrics.
his raps can be definitely put out as poem book.

Ka to me is very poetic but in a very traditional rap type of way if that makes sense.He focuses more on the internal rhyming and structure of each line
than any other rapper here, but his delivery and flow arent anything that have any appeal to a person who isnt in it just for the rhymes.
i can see why people might call him boring for that reason. but every line he has contains internal rhyming while being a double entendre.
ka is a genius he isnt as good as billy woods in terms of imagery to me.

mach hommmicide is just the combination of mos def and profigy in the best way possible. his syhme style, cadence and delivery are very unique.
he at times seems to make no sense with his words but his flow and rhyming is just phnemominal. plus his beat selection is the best.
mach has aa lot of variety as well with emotional qualities at display. something like sous vide can be appreciated by any rap enthusiast
while billy and ka dont have that appeal i think.

all of this is to say they are unique and cant be compared as they are not in each others lane. you can compare j cole to kendrick i mean
as they have some common ground to base the judgement on but here there is very less crossover in any sense.

all three are fan of each other billy and mach have collaborated numerous times

383 myrtle(dumpmeister)
carnies(armand hammer - rome)
windhoek (terror managment)

mach has KA's vinly in one of his videos and KA on twitter he is a fan of mach and billy woods.

collab with ka ,mach,quelle,earl,billy and elucid would be the anthem of every underground fan.

the one person connecting all these artist is earl sweathshirt my fav rapper. to me earl can do anything these while be extremely personal
and emotional. earl has a unique way with comparision to no others.

also check
elzhi
roc marci
denmark vessey
elucid
quelle chris

sabbatical_

6y

to clarify these 3 are in my top 10

billy woods lyrics are very poetic,as in he doesnt always follow the classic end word rhymes but more about how dense he can get
with the bars. His lyrics need to be read and require attention to most level. his flow is also very weird and isnt as lustrous as say mach.
His abstract lyrics really go along with that type of flow. his subject matter goes into criticism of race and class as institutions.
in that sense billy is the best as in he does a lot with a lot less words than any other rapper without being pretentious.also he seems to be
the most well read rapper as his rhymes are littered with reference to classic as well as contemporary writers in a way that it adds to the lyrics.
his raps can be definitely put out as poem book.

Ka to me is very poetic but in a very traditional rap type of way if that makes sense.He focuses more on the internal rhyming and structure of each line
than any other rapper here, but his delivery and flow arent anything that have any appeal to a person who isnt in it just for the rhymes.
i can see why people might call him boring for that reason. but every line he has contains internal rhyming while being a double entendre.
ka is a genius he isnt as good as billy woods in terms of imagery to me.

mach hommmicide is just the combination of mos def and profigy in the best way possible. his syhme style, cadence and delivery are very unique.
he at times seems to make no sense with his words but his flow and rhyming is just phnemominal. plus his beat selection is the best.
mach has aa lot of variety as well with emotional qualities at display. something like sous vide can be appreciated by any rap enthusiast
while billy and ka dont have that appeal i think.

all of this is to say they are unique and cant be compared as they are not in each others lane. you can compare j cole to kendrick i mean
as they have some common ground to base the judgement on but here there is very less crossover in any sense.

all three are fan of each other billy and mach have collaborated numerous times

383 myrtle(dumpmeister)
carnies(armand hammer - rome)
windhoek (terror managment)

mach has KA's vinly in one of his videos and KA on twitter he is a fan of mach and billy woods.

collab with ka ,mach,quelle,earl,billy and elucid would be the anthem of every underground fan.

the one person connecting all these artist is earl sweathshirt my fav rapper. to me earl can do anything these while be extremely personal
and emotional. earl has a unique way with comparision to no others.

also check
elzhi
roc marci
denmark vessey
elucid
quelle chris

phil trout

6y

I like how this thread has just become the underground lmao. Extensive convos about ka billy fahim jah monte rome and more.. that’s tight

sabbatical_

6y

to clarify these 3 are in my top 10

billy woods lyrics are very poetic,as in he doesnt always follow the classic end word rhymes but more about how dense he can get
with the bars. His lyrics need to be read and require attention to most level. his flow is also very weird and isnt as lustrous as say mach.
His abstract lyrics really go along with that type of flow. his subject matter goes into criticism of race and class as institutions.
in that sense billy is the best as in he does a lot with a lot less words than any other rapper without being pretentious.also he seems to be
the most well read rapper as his rhymes are littered with reference to classic as well as contemporary writers in a way that it adds to the lyrics.
his raps can be definitely put out as poem book.

Ka to me is very poetic but in a very traditional rap type of way if that makes sense.He focuses more on the internal rhyming and structure of each line
than any other rapper here, but his delivery and flow arent anything that have any appeal to a person who isnt in it just for the rhymes.
i can see why people might call him boring for that reason. but every line he has contains internal rhyming while being a double entendre.
ka is a genius he isnt as good as billy woods in terms of imagery to me.

mach hommmicide is just the combination of mos def and profigy in the best way possible. his syhme style, cadence and delivery are very unique.
he at times seems to make no sense with his words but his flow and rhyming is just phnemominal. plus his beat selection is the best.
mach has aa lot of variety as well with emotional qualities at display. something like sous vide can be appreciated by any rap enthusiast
while billy and ka dont have that appeal i think.

all of this is to say they are unique and cant be compared as they are not in each others lane. you can compare j cole to kendrick i mean
as they have some common ground to base the judgement on but here there is very less crossover in any sense.

all three are fan of each other billy and mach have collaborated numerous times

383 myrtle(dumpmeister)
carnies(armand hammer - rome)
windhoek (terror managment)

mach has KA's vinly in one of his videos and KA on twitter he is a fan of mach and billy woods.

collab with ka ,mach,quelle,earl,billy and elucid would be the anthem of every underground fan.

the one person connecting all these artist is earl sweathshirt my fav rapper. to me earl can do anything these while be extremely personal
and emotional. earl has a unique way with comparision to no others.

also check
elzhi
roc marci
denmark vessey
elucid
quelle chris

FRITZD

6y

You know this is a real fan because you don’t even see stans typing this much s*** out in the other threads.

AFTAWeRDZ

6y

I don’t agree with Mach sounding like Mos Def & Prodigy at all. I’m not sure if you stated if English is not your first language, but he is making sense at all times and takes a certain amount of education to Register most of his references minus his multi lingual style

FRITZD

6y

In 2004 he sounded just like Prodigy in his flow.

AFTAWeRDZ

6y

I don’t agree with Mach sounding like Mos Def & Prodigy at all. I’m not sure if you stated if English is not your first language, but he is making sense at all times and takes a certain amount of education to Register most of his references minus his multi lingual style

AFTAWeRDZ

6y

GOON GRIZZLE ? Even in 04 he possessed multi rhyme syllables.

sabbatical_

6y

i meant a combination of mos and prodigy as a compliment

i think you are a clown and dont have anything constructive to say.
so you just hop on machs d*** and keep sucking it.
if you cant see how KA and billy are better some thing mach does then you are being a dipshit.
mach is my fav as well dont let it blind you