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    Tangout

    so this s*** essentially sucks lol

    you get a weird comedown from the binding you dont get with traditional opiates.

    and because its a partial agonist you dont get the full strength of the subjective effects

    Yeah unless you do more than and there’s no weird comedown until you stop

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    But because it’s a partial agonist there’s much lower though still not impossible risk of a fatal overdose

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    Yeah unless you do more than and there’s no weird comedown until you stop

    tbh I get nauseous after a point even if I do keep doing it. its like my brain gets overstimulated from it or something.

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    Tangout

    tbh I get nauseous after a point even if I do keep doing it. its like my brain gets overstimulated from it or something.

    I mean people get nausea with regular opioids all the time

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    But because it’s a partial agonist there’s much lower though still not impossible risk of a fatal overdose

    yes i knew this! I dont mix it with other sedatives for that reason.

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    I mean people get nausea with regular opioids all the time

    true! its probably just that.

    so what youre saying is just binge them none stop and never stop taking them and ill be fine?

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    e t

    I mean people get nausea with regular opioids all the time

    also unrelated kinda, but have you heard of sr17018?

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    Tangout

    true! its probably just that.

    so what youre saying is just binge them none stop and never stop taking them and ill be fine?

    Yeah I’m saying thats how it leads to dependence/addiction

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    Tangout

    also unrelated kinda, but have you heard of sr17018?

    I’ve seen people recommending that to get off 7-oh

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    e t

    Yeah I’m saying thats how it leads to dependence/addiction

    oh well that’s true for anything tbf, ofc it is

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    e t

    I’ve seen people recommending that to get off 7-oh

    yeah ppl are using it to get off lots of opiod stuff its pretty strange

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    Tangout

    oh well that’s true for anything tbf, ofc it is

    Many things kind of but depends on intensity. Like there’s a comedown on MDMA but one that doesn’t compel someone to do more MDMA to stop it (not that it would work anyway)

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    Tangout

    yeah ppl are using it to get off lots of opiod stuff its pretty strange

    I think AI will also fix dependence

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    Many things kind of but depends on intensity. Like there’s a comedown on MDMA but one that doesn’t compel someone to do more MDMA to stop it (not that it would work anyway)

    true!

    personally I didnt find any compelling feeling to redose or take more tho. The thought was like taking a shot of liquor in the morning during a hangover kinda vibe.

    im sure ppl do feel like that tho lol.

    but it was nothing like the feeling of running out of coke when ur in the middle of doing it or anything. just subjectively

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    I think AI will also fix dependence

    it will probably be able ot create novel things that do what sr 17018 does and help people who are dependant on stuff function better for sure.

    but if people just want to get high because of their circumstances, ai is going to have to change many complex things about society to fix that. which who knows

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    Tangout

    it will probably be able ot create novel things that do what sr 17018 does and help people who are dependant on stuff function better for sure.

    but if people just want to get high because of their circumstances, ai is going to have to change many complex things about society to fix that. which who knows

    I mean physical dependence , not necessarily addiction. Outside of any social or psychosocial factors, feeling like you’re going to die is certainly a strong deterrent in quitting something in someone who might otherwise quit