Expectations as far as how much they have accomplished - sure

Societal expectations as in what they should be responsible for and what they are allowed to do - no they are fully grown

I think a lot of people are more willing to cut slack for someone younger because they’re just now experiencing adulthood. I don’t think it’s infantilizing to recognize that.

If they are 18-21 yes I agree

nort and bruises are on the same page

I mean I guess we always were then

but you replied to my post after I already clarified "above drinking age" so it confused me

I’d say 21-25ish could get some slack as well but that’s me. The brain is still developing around those ages and I didn’t feel like an established adult until roughly 25.

it’s harder to get to that point too nowadays because people are taking longer to leave their parents house

This is a step too far to me

Once you are 18 you are an adult in my eyes

Once you are 21 you're really an adult

Your brain might develop some more but your brain never stops developing technically and you're grown

Can’t agree with you here. I think our next step is to physically fight about this.