Bruuiisees

59m

He drove so much his car went up in flames

Classique

1h

That’s a real thing man im the youngest in a huge family so my nieces and nephews are in hs or just getting into college and i gave my neph the last of my bleu de chanel. Just the confidence you have from sharing something with your cool uncle is different

Bruuiisees

1h

It got lost? Did you try to find it?

Bruuiisees

1h

So you align yourself with my only vz opp?

Bruuiisees

56m

I feel bad that echos comic pick was the first one to review a truly negative bruises reviewses

He unknowingly picked Rob Liefeld

Spice Bones

3h

do u think ppl r inherently evil

Orangutan

38m

To preface, I think evil is most likely not a real, tangible thing. Of course, I have my own moral frameworks and call things "evil" accordingly, but I don't think there's an objective good or evil if that makes sense.

Now to answer your question: I think we're living in an extremely peculiar period of human evolution, where our latent evolutionary instincts are constantly clashing with our only-recently conscious brains.

Everything that built and molded our species up until very recently was to optimize us for competition and survival. Natural selection has no moral weighting. It only optimizes for survival and reproduction. That means there's a lot of things built into us that I would personally consider "evil".

The advent of consciousness in humans gave us the ability to construct and use a moral compass, but that doesn't change the fact that we're still living in a brutal world where competition is necessary for survival (in some places, you may not actually die, but you're still competing for status, resources, quality of life, etc.) and reproduction. The capacity for reflection and moral judgement combined with a world that demands competition and a body/mind built to compete causes intense cognitive dissonance, which leads to moral judgements only being used selectively and/or strategically, orrrrrrrr people subconsciously frankensteining their moral compass and beliefs to align better with their natural thoughts and actions.

The social dance that everybody plays is largely primate instinct mapped onto a modern context. A large swathe of the population, with an almost disturbing level of grace & poise, will naturally lie, cheat, steal, gossip, exclude, shame, and f*** people over just enough to optimize their position in the competition, while still maintaining the delicate balance with their reputation. And the weird part is that a lot of this happens on autopilot, and if there are any moral hangups, the brain comes up with some sort of justification that is automatically and uncritically accepted.

The unfortunate truth is that most people are either unaware of, unwilling to do, or incapable of doing the metacognition necessary to understand and minimize the harm that comes from this.

Bottom line, I don't think humans are inherently evil in a divine sense, but I do think there's a lot of inherent evil in the way we're wired. It's largely controllable, but nobody fully masters it, and most don't master it at all.

rvi

35m

dope

Orangutan

38m

To preface, I think evil is most likely not a real, tangible thing. Of course, I have my own moral frameworks and call things "evil" accordingly, but I don't think there's an objective good or evil if that makes sense.

Now to answer your question: I think we're living in an extremely peculiar period of human evolution, where our latent evolutionary instincts are constantly clashing with our only-recently conscious brains.

Everything that built and molded our species up until very recently was to optimize us for competition and survival. Natural selection has no moral weighting. It only optimizes for survival and reproduction. That means there's a lot of things built into us that I would personally consider "evil".

The advent of consciousness in humans gave us the ability to construct and use a moral compass, but that doesn't change the fact that we're still living in a brutal world where competition is necessary for survival (in some places, you may not actually die, but you're still competing for status, resources, quality of life, etc.) and reproduction. The capacity for reflection and moral judgement combined with a world that demands competition and a body/mind built to compete causes intense cognitive dissonance, which leads to moral judgements only being used selectively and/or strategically, orrrrrrrr people subconsciously frankensteining their moral compass and beliefs to align better with their natural thoughts and actions.

The social dance that everybody plays is largely primate instinct mapped onto a modern context. A large swathe of the population, with an almost disturbing level of grace & poise, will naturally lie, cheat, steal, gossip, exclude, shame, and f*** people over just enough to optimize their position in the competition, while still maintaining the delicate balance with their reputation. And the weird part is that a lot of this happens on autopilot, and if there are any moral hangups, the brain comes up with some sort of justification that is automatically and uncritically accepted.

The unfortunate truth is that most people are either unaware of, unwilling to do, or incapable of doing the metacognition necessary to understand and minimize the harm that comes from this.

Bottom line, I don't think humans are inherently evil in a divine sense, but I do think there's a lot of inherent evil in the way we're wired. It's largely controllable, but nobody fully masters it, and most don't master it at all.

Orangutan

35m

You really think so?

Like a Camillimane

33m

gay

RareHorseTherapist

39m

What are you guys reading. I’m deep in Fantastic Four and just finished Kang Dynasty too (a must read!)

Orangutan

38m

To preface, I think evil is most likely not a real, tangible thing. Of course, I have my own moral frameworks and call things "evil" accordingly, but I don't think there's an objective good or evil if that makes sense.

Now to answer your question: I think we're living in an extremely peculiar period of human evolution, where our latent evolutionary instincts are constantly clashing with our only-recently conscious brains.

Everything that built and molded our species up until very recently was to optimize us for competition and survival. Natural selection has no moral weighting. It only optimizes for survival and reproduction. That means there's a lot of things built into us that I would personally consider "evil".

The advent of consciousness in humans gave us the ability to construct and use a moral compass, but that doesn't change the fact that we're still living in a brutal world where competition is necessary for survival (in some places, you may not actually die, but you're still competing for status, resources, quality of life, etc.) and reproduction. The capacity for reflection and moral judgement combined with a world that demands competition and a body/mind built to compete causes intense cognitive dissonance, which leads to moral judgements only being used selectively and/or strategically, orrrrrrrr people subconsciously frankensteining their moral compass and beliefs to align better with their natural thoughts and actions.

The social dance that everybody plays is largely primate instinct mapped onto a modern context. A large swathe of the population, with an almost disturbing level of grace & poise, will naturally lie, cheat, steal, gossip, exclude, shame, and f*** people over just enough to optimize their position in the competition, while still maintaining the delicate balance with their reputation. And the weird part is that a lot of this happens on autopilot, and if there are any moral hangups, the brain comes up with some sort of justification that is automatically and uncritically accepted.

The unfortunate truth is that most people are either unaware of, unwilling to do, or incapable of doing the metacognition necessary to understand and minimize the harm that comes from this.

Bottom line, I don't think humans are inherently evil in a divine sense, but I do think there's a lot of inherent evil in the way we're wired. It's largely controllable, but nobody fully masters it, and most don't master it at all.

Orangutan

33m

You really think so?

Bruuiisees

31m

We take turns and pick a different thing every week

Usually just a chunk of around 4-6 issues

An example of some stuff we have read so far is

Green lantern rebirth
The many deaths of Laila starr
The first 4 issues of watchmen (we are continuing this when it's Tuneouts turn again)
Animal man
The first absolute Wonder woman tpb

Right now we are going to read Hey Wait... and I killed Adolf Hitler by Jason

rvi

31m

yeah tang

RareHorseTherapist

31m

This is the message of Iceman to those with a discerning ear

Orangutan

30m

wtf why

Orangutan

33m

You really think so?

Like a Camillimane

28m

yes!