Br00ses

1h

I love Mario

Poopooout

1h

exactly.

Br00ses

1h

Tbh it seems like he pretty much only likes Mario 3d platformers and Zelda

And not really much else besides that

But he isn't just saying that he is like using that as a reason to criticize Nintendo as a whole

player character

1h

jumpman go brr

Br00ses

1h

A spinoff is not an inherently bad thing they are fully polished good games

U don't even know cus u can't play them

Orangutan

1h

It's not an inherently bad thing, just not particularly exciting to me. And like you said, the console is selling well. I understand why Nintendo is doing what they're doing. It's working for them. I guess as far as nintendo goes I'd probably want any of these:

New first party IP that isn't ass (splatoon was a decent example of this)

Star Fox game that isn't another remake of S64

New 2D Metroid, one coming soon apparently and those have been good

New 3D sandbox Mario

New top down Zelda that isn't a remake (Echoes of wisdom counts I guess, though I'm really not a fan of that art style and it was on Switch 1)

New 3D Zelda, though I don't expect that til end of console life

New Pikman entries are always welcome, though 4 just came out 3 years ago so I'm not holding my breath

Some of the recent Yoshi games have been decent, hopefully the new one is good

New Paper Mario that isn't buns

Bring back mainline f-zero, low priority for me but would be cool

I think the Mario & Luigi franchise is dead since the studio is gone but I liked those games

I don't care about modern pokemon at all, I'm not a big fan of recent Kirby games

Bottom line though, I'm okay with playing most, if not all of those way down the line. The only ones that would make me actually buy the console would be at least three of these: 3D Mario, 3D Zelda, top down Zelda, amazing new IP, new Star Fox that isn't ass. Anything else just isn't worth the investment for me when I have plenty of other nintendo games from previous generations to catch up on.

Orangutan

1h

It's not an inherently bad thing, just not particularly exciting to me. And like you said, the console is selling well. I understand why Nintendo is doing what they're doing. It's working for them. I guess as far as nintendo goes I'd probably want any of these:

New first party IP that isn't ass (splatoon was a decent example of this)

Star Fox game that isn't another remake of S64

New 2D Metroid, one coming soon apparently and those have been good

New 3D sandbox Mario

New top down Zelda that isn't a remake (Echoes of wisdom counts I guess, though I'm really not a fan of that art style and it was on Switch 1)

New 3D Zelda, though I don't expect that til end of console life

New Pikman entries are always welcome, though 4 just came out 3 years ago so I'm not holding my breath

Some of the recent Yoshi games have been decent, hopefully the new one is good

New Paper Mario that isn't buns

Bring back mainline f-zero, low priority for me but would be cool

I think the Mario & Luigi franchise is dead since the studio is gone but I liked those games

I don't care about modern pokemon at all, I'm not a big fan of recent Kirby games

Bottom line though, I'm okay with playing most, if not all of those way down the line. The only ones that would make me actually buy the console would be at least three of these: 3D Mario, 3D Zelda, top down Zelda, amazing new IP, new Star Fox that isn't ass. Anything else just isn't worth the investment for me when I have plenty of other nintendo games from previous generations to catch up on.

Poopooout

1h

imagine not liking kirby

Br00ses

1h

Like yeah they have no system sellers we need that new f zero?

player character

1h

bruises is cooking you

Poopooout

1h

wii u was an amazing console

Poopooout

1h

mario kart world is the most mechanically advanced and highest skill ceiling mario kart of all time

no mario kart game is like it

Br00ses

1h

He has the best habit of starting out his anti Nintendo posts with the most insane take

And then following that insane take with a book of text

So u know when to skip

Orangutan

1h

You're mad and you don't read

Orangutan

1h

Old kirby rocks

Orangutan

1h

I'm happy for the competitive mario kart scene

Br00ses

1h

Dude I read it

U and ur friends couldn't get good at the grinding mechanic in Mario kart world so Nintendo sucks now because no zelda

It's not convincing

Poopooout

1h

so does new kirby

Orangutan

58m

Bottom line

I like Nintendo games, I'll play a lot of them if I already own the console, but I can get my general Nintendo fix by playing any of the hundreds of old Nintendo games I haven't played yet

To get me into that new console ecosystem, there's gotta be something I absolutely can't miss, which yes, usually is a major Mario or Zelda title. Those come around once a decade and I'm okay with waiting for them and playing Nintendo's 1983-2024 catalogue in the meantime. That, OR a cool new console gimmick, which clearly isn't necessary because the Switch concept is a winner.

But in my humblest opinion, Nintendo does lose a lot of its aura, at least for me personally, when it recycles the same console idea and no longer has me on the edge of my seat for game announcements. I know I'm not alone in that, but I also don't want to piss on anyone else's parade. But you said my Chinese DS doesn't have aura and I couldn't take that standing down.

Br00ses

55m

Nintendo fans have been asking Nintendo stop relying on a new gimmick for more than a decade at this point

And they begged Nintendo to just release an enhanced sequel to the switch

So it does seem like a weird outsider perspective to me yeah

Orangutan

45m

You don't have to rely on a new gimmick, but if you execute it well like the Switch 1 and have genre defining games ready to go from the jump, it certainly helps

And like I've said, I totally understand why they did Switch 2, and I wasn't punching air when it got announced or anything. It was the right and expected decision. Switch 2 is solid console.

Recycling the Switch idea doesn't make them a bad console manufacturer, it just makes them a normal one, when they used to be mindblowing. And that may have been unavoidable with the way the industry is these days. We're probably hitting a plateau on what games and gaming consoles can be, all while it becomes more expensive and time-consuming to develop the software and hardware. There really may not be that much more "wow" out there.

Who knows, maybe the next Nintendo console will rope me back in. I'll probably get a Switch 2 regardless at some point down the line, I just don't put them on the same pedestal that I used to.

Orangutan

45m

You don't have to rely on a new gimmick, but if you execute it well like the Switch 1 and have genre defining games ready to go from the jump, it certainly helps

And like I've said, I totally understand why they did Switch 2, and I wasn't punching air when it got announced or anything. It was the right and expected decision. Switch 2 is solid console.

Recycling the Switch idea doesn't make them a bad console manufacturer, it just makes them a normal one, when they used to be mindblowing. And that may have been unavoidable with the way the industry is these days. We're probably hitting a plateau on what games and gaming consoles can be, all while it becomes more expensive and time-consuming to develop the software and hardware. There really may not be that much more "wow" out there.

Who knows, maybe the next Nintendo console will rope me back in. I'll probably get a Switch 2 regardless at some point down the line, I just don't put them on the same pedestal that I used to.