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  • May 28
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    Orangutan

    yup yup yup

    I'm absolutely fascinated with religion and everything that comes along with it

    The archaeology, sociology, the "lore", all of it

    It's just daunting because there's a lifetimes worth of study material for every sect of every religion, but I try to get what I can out of all of them. I tend to dive deepest into Christianity because that's my comfort zone, but I've dipped my toes into Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism.

    Judaism too, but that's kind of interlocked with christianity. It occupies the same umbrella in my mind.

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28
    Orangutan

    yup yup yup

    I'm absolutely fascinated with religion and everything that comes along with it

    The archaeology, sociology, the "lore", all of it

    It's just daunting because there's a lifetimes worth of study material for every sect of every religion, but I try to get what I can out of all of them. I tend to dive deepest into Christianity because that's my comfort zone, but I've dipped my toes into Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism.

    for sure!

    travelling and dating/being friends with people from different religions huge for that too.

    being open minded and accepting of peoples beliefs opens the world up to you

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28
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    Orangutan

    Judaism too, but that's kind of interlocked with christianity. It occupies the same umbrella in my mind.

    ya christianity, judaism and islam are all abrahamic faiths that branched off the same source material.

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    May 28
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    in univeirsty i only really studied abrahamic faiths i have a big blind spot for hinduism and buddishm

  • May 28
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    Tuneout

    ya christianity, judaism and islam are all abrahamic faiths that branched off the same source material.

    For sure

    Christianity and Judaism are more intertwined in my mind, but Islam is obviously in that same grouping

  • May 28
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    Tuneout

    in univeirsty i only really studied abrahamic faiths i have a big blind spot for hinduism and buddishm

    The development of the abrahamic faiths vs the eastern religions is super interesting

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28
    Orangutan

    For sure

    Christianity and Judaism are more intertwined in my mind, but Islam is obviously in that same grouping

    ya!

    although islam is closer to christianity in some ways because jesus was a prophet in islam

    then christianity did the jewish thing and reject muhammed.

    islam the one that just takes all the prophets in

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28
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    Orangutan

    The development of the abrahamic faiths vs the eastern religions is super interesting

    ya and my undertsanding (which could be wrong) is there’s some overlap in beliefs with hinduism and buddishm. its not unlike the abrahamic faiths. but i think the split is a bigger split

  • Br00ses 🐇
    May 28
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    Orangutan

    I've always looked at it like this:

    God is supposedly the creator of all, the uncaused cause. Most people look at that in reference to the physical universe, but it would also apply to concepts. If it didn't, there would have to be concepts that "supersede" God, leading to an infinite regression. These concepts include things like good and evil, sin and judgement, euphoria and suffering, and even the idea of "free will".

    Taking that into consideration, an uncomfortable question presents itself: Why would God create concepts that brought suffering to conscious beings?

    Thomas Aquinas tries to square this by saying the negative concepts are really just the lack of the good, meaning God didn't really create them, but that never really resonated for me.

    I don't think he went out of his way to create that as much as it was necessary for the bad to exist as an alternative for the good to be considered good

    Unless there was just no ability to choose and make decisions, which some would consider to be cruel

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    May 28
    Br00ses

    I don't think he went out of his way to create that as much as it was necessary for the bad to exist as an alternative for the good to be considered good

    Unless there was just no ability to choose and make decisions, which some would consider to be cruel

    this is tangentially related, but i find it funny that the upside down cross is considered a satanic symbol when its just st. peter’s cross who wanted to be crucified upside down because he didnt want to be compared to jesus.

    what is that all about

  • rvi 🦤
    May 28
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    Tuneout

    in univeirsty i only really studied abrahamic faiths i have a big blind spot for hinduism and buddishm

    what are the coolest things u learned about this topic in university

  • Br00ses 🐇
    May 28

    Satan just tried to takeover and got felt so personally offended he banished him to hell forever

    Like yeah it wasn't nice but that's some control freak stuff to do imo

    Now even anyone who gets close to following that idea also goes to hell forever unless they say sorry

    It's an edgy teenager complaint to bring up but like any reasonable person would realize that's really mean

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28
    rvi

    what are the coolest things u learned about this topic in university

    my 2 favourite things i learned was that people have been able to trace back the authors of multiple version of the same story. like genesis. and that a group of priests tried to fit these duplicate stories into one story and because of it the bible repeats itself at certain sections.

    and my other favourite is how closely based on religious stories and morals most books, movies and stories in general are even if it isnt deliberate. the framework for how they operate can almost always be traced back to biblical stories

  • May 28
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    Br00ses

    I don't think he went out of his way to create that as much as it was necessary for the bad to exist as an alternative for the good to be considered good

    Unless there was just no ability to choose and make decisions, which some would consider to be cruel

    This is pretty meta and might not be satisfying to everyone, but my point is that every single idea and concept has to come from the uncaused cause. The ideas of "alternatives" and "opposites" are included within that. The framework of reality that we have to reason within operates within the bounds of those concepts. The original, eternal, uncaused cause, by necessity, had to be the one to create and define them in the first place.

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28

    also that theres still new research being done on things in the bible. like that mary magdalene (different mary than who gave birth to jesus) was arguably the most important disciple and her role got overlooked for thousands of years because of sexism in the church. she was the first person to see jesus after he was resurrected.

    or that there are a lot of events that happened in the bible that were thought to be myths but since the 60s with new technology theres been historical evidence to corroborate the events.

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    tuneout stinking thread up with dusty talk

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28
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    Like a Camillimane

    tuneout stinking thread up with dusty talk


    this real dust

  • May 28
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    Tuneout

    ya and my undertsanding (which could be wrong) is there’s some overlap in beliefs with hinduism and buddishm. its not unlike the abrahamic faiths. but i think the split is a bigger split

    No you're totally right

    It's (roughly) like looking at two different evolutionary trees

    Shared stories and social ideas permeate all of the abrahamic religions, but not the eastern ones, and vice versa.

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28
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    this real dust

    me when i meet @Extraterrestrial

  • Br00ses 🐇
    May 28
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    Orangutan

    This is pretty meta and might not be satisfying to everyone, but my point is that every single idea and concept has to come from the uncaused cause. The ideas of "alternatives" and "opposites" are included within that. The framework of reality that we have to reason within operates within the bounds of those concepts. The original, eternal, uncaused cause, by necessity, had to be the one to create and define them in the first place.

    But I think some of this just comes like from creation inherently

    Like there literally can not be good without there being bad, there wouldn't have been a way to create that, they are connected. He wouldn't have been able to make good.

    So he consciously made the decision to create good and at the same time also made bad, he knew this and told everyone what was required to be considered good, and then they acted against those requirements

  • rvi 🦤
    May 28
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    tuneout stinking thread up with dusty talk

    its ur bday youre allowed to change the thread topic to whatever you like

  • May 28
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    rvi

    its ur bday youre allowed to change the thread topic to whatever you like

    let tuneout cook

  • Tuneout 🎨
    May 28
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    Like a Camillimane

    let tuneout cook

    damn

    camel out here giving me a present

  • rvi 🦤
    May 28
    Like a Camillimane

    let tuneout cook

    The birthday boy speaks.