usher had a stronger prime than r kelly so lets get that out the way rn!
Hmm bigger commercially maybe but r kelly was making hits for others, producing, writing
He’s prob a better full artist man
r kelly whole career was a prime
You are not listening to Chocolate H**** Black Panties or whatever its called in 2025
r kelly whole career was a prime
Unfortunately
Hmm bigger commercially maybe but r kelly was making hits for others, producing, writing
He’s prob a better full artist man
I agree with you, but Usher got better hits and albums to me
You are not listening to Chocolate H**** Black Panties or whatever its called in 2025
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Like Confessions is probably the best album
Urban Hang Suite Maxwell is probably the best vocals
But I don’t know who I would say is definitively the GOAT albums/hits/impact/longevity wise
I agree with you, but Usher got better hits and albums to me

R Kelly’s lowkey more iconic I think tho
He prob right as sad as it is
Give him some time we’ll see who still around a decade from now
Nah he’s not right
A big part of what makes people a fan of an artist is the relatability factor and seeing the human side of them. Even someone as corporate and sanitized as Sabrina Carpenter for example has a human factor to her image that attracts people.
A.I pop doesn’t have that. There’s no uniqueness or anything remotely relatable about it. It looks and sounds like a CEO typing into a prompt, because it is. Timbo released a snippet of a song from his new “A.I Artist” and it literally sounded like a diet Tyla/Jhene Akio. People will never gravitate towards something that corporate upfront.
I’ve seen some oldheads gravitate towards it, because they’re still bitter that they were wrong about autotune and they think this is another case of that. But autotune has always strictly been a creative tool. A creative tool that can be misused, but a tool nonetheless. It’s not a tool that can be used entirely by itself without the human factor involved.
Like Confessions is probably the best album
Urban Hang Suite Maxwell is probably the best vocals
But I don’t know who I would say is definitively the GOAT albums/hits/impact/longevity wise
Embrya…

R Kelly’s lowkey more iconic I think tho
idk the conversation of r kellys piss parades and s***dungeons sorta trump the music
Maybe i should get braids
be nice wtf
This is my final offer

Like Confessions is probably the best album
Urban Hang Suite Maxwell is probably the best vocals
But I don’t know who I would say is definitively the GOAT albums/hits/impact/longevity wise
marvin?
esoteric and unrelatable
Usher had a stronger streak of albums pre-Here I stand but R Kelly’s best albums arent too far behind at all
like 12 play is reeeeeally good
Nah he’s not right
A big part of what makes people a fan of an artist is the relatability factor and seeing the human side of them. Even someone as corporate and sanitized as Sabrina Carpenter for example has a human factor to her image that attracts people.
A.I pop doesn’t have that. There’s no uniqueness or anything remotely relatable about it. It looks and sounds like a CEO typing into a prompt, because it is. Timbo released a snippet of a song from his new “A.I Artist” and it literally sounded like a diet Tyla/Jhene Akio. People will never gravitate towards something that corporate upfront.
I’ve seen some oldheads gravitate towards it, because they’re still bitter that they were wrong about autotune and they think this is another case of that. But autotune has always strictly been a creative tool. A creative tool that can be misused, but a tool nonetheless. It’s not a tool that can be used entirely by itself without the human factor involved.
You looking at it from a current perspective I think long term they’ll end up semi right
Not everyone gives a f*** about it like we do that’s the sad truth