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  • Dec 14, 2021
    internet buddy

    “urban”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_contemporary

    i didn’t write that, and yeah the term urban for music should be changed, but that doesn’t change the point of it lol

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    provider

    well damn who has disrespect and spit on the culture now we gotta start naming names cause I'm really out the loop

    I blame rappers like Lil Uzi and Lil Pump or X who have said they're not rappers but just use the culture for themselves. These new school rappers take what they want from hip-hop and then credit it to a predominantly "white" genre like rock (actually a black founded genre) or emo (also a trend coming from black roots) it's all part of the whitewashing centuries in the making. Rap is next on the hit list

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    This facts. But I agree cause something about rappers scoffing at the idea of being called rappers because they view it as "lowly" has always rubbed me the wrong way. What's wrong with being called a rapper? Especially when all you f***in doing is rapping about some bullshit and getting renegaded by the producer?

    It’s not their fault entirely it’s the stigma society had placed on the term

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    insertcoolnamehere

    hopsin

    I did my own googles before coming back to ask you but I couldn't find what you meant, all I see is something about him fake quitting rap in 2014

    unless this wasn't a serious answer I missed the hype on bruh back then lol

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    eye contact

    Being a rapper is being an artist

    PREACH

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    RESIGNED

    this is insane to me

    blinding lights literally sounds like 80s synthpop and intentions sounds like modern R&B but because of their skin colors, they get different labels. The labels have always been more about the image than the actual music. A lot of people don’t know the the guy who discovered and produced New Edition also formed and produced new kids on the block because he was intelligent and aware enough to understand how black artists are differently and literally treated new kids on the block as a white New Edition

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    White pop radio has not played a new Beyoncé single since single ladies and halo. Contrast Adele and Taylor Swift to her.

    idk if we are listening to the same radio then lol. in order for it to go 3x platinum it needed to be played everywhere, and it was

    if a radio station is playing adele and taylor swift, best believe beyoncé is in regular rotation as well

    she’s pretty much the biggest female pop star if we are talking spanning decades. all races love her

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    provider

    I did my own googles before coming back to ask you but I couldn't find what you meant, all I see is something about him fake quitting rap in 2014

    unless this wasn't a serious answer I missed the hype on bruh back then lol

    i'm just talking s*** bro lol.

    he did say 'fuck hip hop' on ill mind of hopsin 5.

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    PEACEFUL HARMONY

    U notice how them niggas who be calling theyself artists be saying it all the time bro trying to force a narrative or brainwash u into thinking that s***? I haven’t heard a nigga like Ross or Andre or Peggy call theyself artist unless they talking about recording artists. Niggas like travis and ye really think they a weird painter or something s*** funny and weird lol but folks eat it up so maybe they onto something

    Like bro they really want suburban white acceptance that s*** so cring e to me bro

    rap itself is a form of art but a lot of times calling someone just a "rapper" has been used in a negative way as if its inferior--which its not.

    But people are trying to fight against this narrative that they're limited to this box of only being a rapper and not an artist

    Unfortunately a lot of people put down rap while they're trying to make this point. which sucks because rapping is already a perfectly valid form of art and expression

  • Dec 14, 2021
    internet buddy

    blinding lights literally sounds like 80s synthpop and intentions sounds like modern R&B but because of their skin colors, they get different labels. The labels have always been more about the image than the actual music. A lot of people don’t know the the guy who discovered and produced New Edition also formed and produced new kids on the block because he was intelligent and aware enough to understand how black artists are differently and literally treated new kids on the block as a white New Edition

    its like how usher was “r&b” while jt was “pop”

  • Dec 14, 2021

    @Brave post that excerpt from the song machine about the guy who discovered *NSYNC saying he wanted a white Dru Hill

  • Dec 14, 2021

    Ye is technically a "weird painter".

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    Stantm4444

    Rappers ARE artists though

    To say otherwise, would be to diminish the musical skills necessary to be a good rapper.

    i feel like the hate on the rap art form got internalized by people who rap and now its just leading to this thread

  • Dec 14, 2021

    it's not that deep

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    The Darkest Angel

    I blame rappers like Lil Uzi and Lil Pump or X who have said they're not rappers but just use the culture for themselves. These new school rappers take what they want from hip-hop and then credit it to a predominantly "white" genre like rock (actually a black founded genre) or emo (also a trend coming from black roots) it's all part of the whitewashing centuries in the making. Rap is next on the hit list

    Emo has black roots?

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    VVV

    whats wrong with a music Artist calling themselves an artist

    not all these dudes artists

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    Classique

    not all these dudes artists

    What’s the difference between an artist and a rapper or singer

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    internet buddy

    Emo has black roots?

    What color are they wearing

    I rest my case

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    VVV

    sometimes yes, but do you agree that the word "rapper" has been used by white people to lessen the artistry of black music artists

    no, they just insecure bout that s***
    u can call urself an artist or whatever, they still treat us like a nword

    actually pathetic to give in to that mentality if u'd ask me

    these rappers are in a culture (hip hop) that made the nword a "term of endearment" and y'all defending them now acting like being called rapper is bad???????? s*** is funny asl if u think about it

    just my 2 cents tho

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    The Darkest Angel

    I blame rappers like Lil Uzi and Lil Pump or X who have said they're not rappers but just use the culture for themselves. These new school rappers take what they want from hip-hop and then credit it to a predominantly "white" genre like rock (actually a black founded genre) or emo (also a trend coming from black roots) it's all part of the whitewashing centuries in the making. Rap is next on the hit list

    Finally some examples lol thank you. Honestly I could see XXX saying that but it is also kind of true no? I wasn't very familiar with his music but I'd say he functioned a little more outside of rap than say Lil Uzi. still based in rap and that's what we know him for but yeah.

    Lil Uzi does he say he's a rockstar too or whatever? I really don't feel like they be taking about the MUSIC half the time lol which is why I don't agree with this whole "they're s***ting on the culture!"

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    provider

    Finally some examples lol thank you. Honestly I could see XXX saying that but it is also kind of true no? I wasn't very familiar with his music but I'd say he functioned a little more outside of rap than say Lil Uzi. still based in rap and that's what we know him for but yeah.

    Lil Uzi does he say he's a rockstar too or whatever? I really don't feel like they be taking about the MUSIC half the time lol which is why I don't agree with this whole "they're s***ting on the culture!"

    Bro cmon I love X but he got y’all fooled with those 2 minute iPhone recordings over a guitar beat

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    The Darkest Angel

    PREACH

    wait delete this because you'd lowkey be contradicting yourself. that's the whole point being made. if rapping is an art, then why can't they refer to themselves as artists

  • Dec 14, 2021
    afterimage

    Bro cmon I love X but he got y’all fooled with those 2 minute iPhone recordings over a guitar beat

    HE PLAY GATAR NIGGA.

  • Dec 14, 2021
    insertcoolnamehere

    i'm just talking s*** bro lol.

    he did say 'fuck hip hop' on ill mind of hopsin 5.

    you gotta put a smiley on that next time

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Troy Ave Stan

    They really tryna push themselves away from being “rappers” cuz of all the stigma that’s been push onto it

    But this ain’t the right place to bring that up, KTT nerds the type to try to talk down on rap music and use insults like “listen to something other than rap” and bring up the Beatles or some dweeb s*** like that

    Two of the most braindead posters in one thread crazy

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