i see i see, i think op is talking about the types of rappers who s*** on rap by saying theyre “bigger than that” or something. Or “ im not a rapper, im a rockstar” “im a creative” “ i make sonic paintings not songs” something along those lines.
Most ppl who claim “Artist” usually be on that insufferable s***. Its in other genres as well, including some of the goats saying that s***.
at the end of the day jus create beautiful work, theres no need to put it on a pedestal by putting other art down
Thats how i interpreted OP atleast. He be on some other s*** tho lmao
Nah bro u right u right
I get that. Some of those artists, whoever they are, could really be making (or at least feel like they're making) s*** other than rap. other. not better. not transcending. if there have been any artists or rappers who have used those words regarding the genre they're in, I'd love to see it cause that's pretty whack.
That “im not a rapper, im a rockstar” s*** was RAMPANT back in the mid 2010s.
frank ocean called him self a content creator
i mean I guess he can get a pass but its still corny imo.
dont even get me started on tyler that niggas whole brand is this thread
Cant cite quotes or anything at the moment but there were many who put their genre down at the expense of another. And it usually be artists who only rap. One of my pet peeves with musicians. I get antsy at any label ppl try to ascribe to their art tho idk why.
It’s like they think MJ is the only black person to make pop music, and even then I feel like they’d take that away from him if they could (false accusations, etc)
MJ was only called pop cause he outsold everyone else all the time.
he a social experiment made by the mods bro lol
S coming for elon musks throne if this true
MJ was only called pop cause he outsold everyone else all the time.
Rihanna is pop
That “im not a rapper, im a rockstar” s*** was RAMPANT back in the mid 2010s.
frank ocean called him self a content creator
i mean I guess he can get a pass but its still corny imo.
dont even get me started on tyler that niggas whole brand is this thread
Cant cite quotes or anything at the moment but there were many who put their genre down at the expense of another. And it usually be artists who only rap. One of my pet peeves with musicians. I get antsy at any label ppl try to ascribe to their art tho idk why.
Wayne made an actual Rock album and it was still called rap.
i’m not saying there aren’t obvious examples of discrepancies, because there are, but i think with JT is because of his legacy with nsync
like beyoncé albums are all in the pop genre, she has mega hits and was in a successful girl group
Beyoncé albums are all pop? Why did pop radio not play any of her 2010s stuff? Why was her 2010s stuff not nominated for pop Grammys?
It's the opposite of white approval
white approval would be staying called a Rapper
I don't want to sound woke but I'll explain this for you brother
Whites hate rap that's why they think calling you a rapper is a bad thing. You believing that being a rapper is bad just gives them power. Rap is one of the greatest forms of art and they know that so they want to destroy it. They're using reverse psychology to convey the thought that we shouldn't want to be a rapper so hip-hop loses its importance. When you disrespect and spit on the culture by abandoning it acting like it's not real art they get what they want. Don't let whites control your thoughts. Being a rapper is an incredible achievement.
Bieber was nominated for best pop song and The Weeknd was nominated for best R&B song (Blinding Lights) at the last vmas
I agree to a certain extent.
Considering yourself a artist is ok but I don’t like when certain people use that as a way to be condescending towards hip hop.
Wayne made an actual Rock album and it was still called rap.
Yet MGK isn’t called a rapper now that he’s doing that pop punk garbage
Everything that u create is a artform bro don’t mean u a artists u don’t hear no hooper call theyself a athlete they a hooper they excelling in ballimg why tf would they use a broad term
Like athlete when they hoop?

It's the opposite of white approval
white approval would be staying called a Rapper
You have no idea what ur talking about
Rihanna is pop
She doesn't just make pop you need to really listen to all her work to understand not just the radio hits
That “im not a rapper, im a rockstar” s*** was RAMPANT back in the mid 2010s.
frank ocean called him self a content creator
i mean I guess he can get a pass but its still corny imo.
dont even get me started on tyler that niggas whole brand is this thread
Cant cite quotes or anything at the moment but there were many who put their genre down at the expense of another. And it usually be artists who only rap. One of my pet peeves with musicians. I get antsy at any label ppl try to ascribe to their art tho idk why.
Ok but didn't the rockstar s*** 100% have to do with aesthetics and the overall energy they brought to their persona and lifestyle? I don't think that fits in the conversation tbh let's stick to the "artist" thing
I'm glad you mentioned the Frank thing, why do you feel he deserves a pass? Because of all of the other non-musical projects he's been a part of?
I'll also have to take your word on rappers who "put their genre down" but I almost want to assume that's more what the outside audience implies and takes away from what the artist actually wants to portray.
I don't think y'all give these artists/rappers enough slack at all. But idk it's just different views I feel you on your points. Thanks for engaging
Yet MGK isn’t called a rapper now that he’s doing that pop punk garbage

Certain people be like "look hes black this is a rap song" 😭😭
Wayne made an actual Rock album and it was still called rap.
was it really? Im sure the genre of the album listed on streaming is under “rock” aint no way it isnt.
all i know is ppl like uzi and his whole rockstar thing back in the day. Im sure carti is on that im not a rapper wave as well.
And thats not saying you cant bend boundaries and get out ur box. Jus dont be making it seem like its something extremely rare for an artist to do by being all pompous about it lol.
Its honestly why i fw ppl like yung lean, jpeg, vince staples, kendrick. They can easily use every buzzword in the book, yet they keep low and let the music speak.
Certain people be like "look hes black this is a rap song" 😭😭
Nigga, this would literally be called “pop” if the f***ing Jonas Brothers made it. F*** labels.
I don't want to sound woke but I'll explain this for you brother
Whites hate rap that's why they think calling you a rapper is a bad thing. You believing that being a rapper is bad just gives them power. Rap is one of the greatest forms of art and they know that so they want to destroy it. They're using reverse psychology to convey the thought that we shouldn't want to be a rapper so hip-hop loses its importance. When you disrespect and spit on the culture by abandoning it acting like it's not real art they get what they want. Don't let whites control your thoughts. Being a rapper is an incredible achievement.
well damn who has disrespect and spit on the culture
now we gotta start naming names cause I'm really out the loop
was it really? Im sure the genre of the album listed on streaming is under “rock” aint no way it isnt.
all i know is ppl like uzi and his whole rockstar thing back in the day. Im sure carti is on that im not a rapper wave as well.
And thats not saying you cant bend boundaries and get out ur box. Jus dont be making it seem like its something extremely rare for an artist to do by being all pompous about it lol.
Its honestly why i fw ppl like yung lean, jpeg, vince staples, kendrick. They can easily use every buzzword in the book, yet they keep low and let the music speak.
Rebirth is hip-hop/rap on streaming

Wayne got a whole rock band behind him
Damn this facts
“Im not a rapper, im a artist”
Or
“Don’t call me R&B I’m more than that”
Shut yo b**** ass up
I think it’s because rappers and R&B singers are constantly put into boxes by white audiences, so they feel the need to outright say this to avoid being trapped in those boxes as their careers progress
Prime example of this is Hotline Bling winning a Grammy for Best Rap Song
was it really? Im sure the genre of the album listed on streaming is under “rock” aint no way it isnt.
all i know is ppl like uzi and his whole rockstar thing back in the day. Im sure carti is on that im not a rapper wave as well.
And thats not saying you cant bend boundaries and get out ur box. Jus dont be making it seem like its something extremely rare for an artist to do by being all pompous about it lol.
Its honestly why i fw ppl like yung lean, jpeg, vince staples, kendrick. They can easily use every buzzword in the book, yet they keep low and let the music speak.
