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  • Oct 30, 2025
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    Bdot speaks

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    eye contact

    Raps biggest market share was in 2017. Obviously they took us part of the way but they weren’t the ones who pushed rap into the stratospheric everpresence it had in 2017

    So I think that basically means that the new generation benefited off of the foundation that the OGs laid.

    The genre was already heading to new heights regardless of who came after the OGs, but instead of continuing to push the genre forward, some of the new gen have kept it stagnant and somewhat regressive

  • Oct 30, 2025
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    DaeHan
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    So I think that basically means that the new generation benefited off of the foundation that the OGs laid.

    The genre was already heading to new heights regardless of who came after the OGs, but instead of continuing to push the genre forward, some of the new gen have kept it stagnant and somewhat regressive

    instead of continuing to push the genre forward, some of the new gen have kept it stagnant and somewhat regressive

    agreed, its like everyone is a bunch of clones nowadays

  • Oct 30, 2025
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    sniper

    instead of continuing to push the genre forward, some of the new gen have kept it stagnant and somewhat regressive

    agreed, its like everyone is a bunch of clones nowadays

    Yachty
    Carti
    Uzi
    Yung Thug to an extent

    None of these dudes are real “superstars”

    The kids love em, but that’s only because they’re relatable to the extent of not having to have “real” talent to be popular.

    The kids see the way they dress and act and want to be them. The music comes secondary. It’s just part of their image.

    I seriously doubt if these kids even really like Yachty/Uzi/Carti or if they go along with it because it’s “vibes”

  • Streamers kicked rappers off the porch

  • Oct 30, 2025
    DaeHan

    Yachty
    Carti
    Uzi
    Yung Thug to an extent

    None of these dudes are real “superstars”

    The kids love em, but that’s only because they’re relatable to the extent of not having to have “real” talent to be popular.

    The kids see the way they dress and act and want to be them. The music comes secondary. It’s just part of their image.

    I seriously doubt if these kids even really like Yachty/Uzi/Carti or if they go along with it because it’s “vibes”

    Bad take

  • Oct 30, 2025
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    DaeHan

    So I think that basically means that the new generation benefited off of the foundation that the OGs laid.

    The genre was already heading to new heights regardless of who came after the OGs, but instead of continuing to push the genre forward, some of the new gen have kept it stagnant and somewhat regressive

    You’re describing literally any cultural phenomenon

    Everything is informed by the pasrt

  • Oct 30, 2025
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    DaeHan

    Yachty
    Carti
    Uzi
    Yung Thug to an extent

    None of these dudes are real “superstars”

    The kids love em, but that’s only because they’re relatable to the extent of not having to have “real” talent to be popular.

    The kids see the way they dress and act and want to be them. The music comes secondary. It’s just part of their image.

    I seriously doubt if these kids even really like Yachty/Uzi/Carti or if they go along with it because it’s “vibes”

    Saying this is about Carti is insane lol

  • Oct 30, 2025
    DaeHan

    So I think that basically means that the new generation benefited off of the foundation that the OGs laid.

    The genre was already heading to new heights regardless of who came after the OGs, but instead of continuing to push the genre forward, some of the new gen have kept it stagnant and somewhat regressive

    Where was the crossover?

  • Oct 30, 2025
    eye contact

    Saying this is about Carti is insane lol

    About any of them really.

  • Oct 30, 2025
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    TheFader

    No they did not

    That was people like Jay, Eminem, Kanye, Wayne, Drake, Kendrick, etc.

    That 2016 generation was supposed to carry the torch and take it to even higher heights but they dropped it and pissed on it

    This is just not true hip hop’s commercial peak was 2017-2022 that is not Kendrick hov or Wayne’s prime lol nor were they the highest sellers of that era other than DAMN Uzi was way more significant in that era than any of them

  • Oct 30, 2025
    DaeHan

    Yachty
    Carti
    Uzi
    Yung Thug to an extent

    None of these dudes are real “superstars”

    The kids love em, but that’s only because they’re relatable to the extent of not having to have “real” talent to be popular.

    The kids see the way they dress and act and want to be them. The music comes secondary. It’s just part of their image.

    I seriously doubt if these kids even really like Yachty/Uzi/Carti or if they go along with it because it’s “vibes”

    LMAO IF THAT DONT APPLY TO CARTI AND UZI IT DONT APPLY TO ANYONE EVER
    Also the rest of this is demonstrably false and stupid

  • Oct 30, 2025
    eye contact

    You’re describing literally any cultural phenomenon

    Everything is informed by the pasrt

  • Oct 30, 2025

    Hip-hop is at its lowest in 2025. It’s lost its way. We need a cultural reset

  • Oct 30, 2025

    lol yall got mad when I mentioned Carti and Uzi

  • Oct 30, 2025
    DaeHan

    Yachty
    Carti
    Uzi
    Yung Thug to an extent

    None of these dudes are real “superstars”

    The kids love em, but that’s only because they’re relatable to the extent of not having to have “real” talent to be popular.

    The kids see the way they dress and act and want to be them. The music comes secondary. It’s just part of their image.

    I seriously doubt if these kids even really like Yachty/Uzi/Carti or if they go along with it because it’s “vibes”

    Uzi had some actual rapping ability at least

  • Oct 30, 2025

    Combination like Fransisco Mandarin said. We need new combinations is all. “Originality” isn’t this completely unforeseen thing like the romantics suggest; it’s simply a new combination of preexisting ideas. We just need new combinations. The lack of “new” combinations is what’s unique to the current era - the combinations are simply not new

    😊

  • Oct 30, 2025
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    Pac, Em, Hov, DMX, Nelly, Luda, 50, Wayne, Ye, Drake, Nicki, not Cole, Kendrick, Keef, Future, Thug, Carti, even Travis’s boring ass

    Provided new combinations. Ken Carson and Destroy Lonely do not

  • Oct 30, 2025
    DaeHan

    Yachty
    Carti
    Uzi
    Yung Thug to an extent

    None of these dudes are real “superstars”

    The kids love em, but that’s only because they’re relatable to the extent of not having to have “real” talent to be popular.

    The kids see the way they dress and act and want to be them. The music comes secondary. It’s just part of their image.

    I seriously doubt if these kids even really like Yachty/Uzi/Carti or if they go along with it because it’s “vibes”

    hella over-pretentious take

  • Oct 30, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    This is just not true hip hop’s commercial peak was 2017-2022 that is not Kendrick hov or Wayne’s prime lol nor were they the highest sellers of that era other than DAMN Uzi was way more significant in that era than any of them

    Nigga… what?

    First of all, the genre doesn’t even get to that commercial prime without the efforts by Jay, Em, Kanye, Wayne, Drake, Kendrick, etc. during the years and years before that point. Do you think the world woke up one day and decided to make hip-hop the #1 genre in the world in the mid-2010s because of a Lil Uzi Vert mixtape?

    Second of all, you talking about 2017. Kendrick and Uzi both dropped studio albums in 2017. Do me a favor and look up what the highest selling rap album of 2017 was. I’ll wait!

    Lil Uzi was never more culturally significant than any of the guys I named at any point during his career. You sound like you started listening to rap in 2015

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    Andre Jaquet

    This is just not true hip hop’s commercial peak was 2017-2022 that is not Kendrick hov or Wayne’s prime lol nor were they the highest sellers of that era other than DAMN Uzi was way more significant in that era than any of them

    None of these bullshit streams ar2 coming close to the pure sales Em, Nelly, 50, DMX, Pac, Biggie and Jay had

  • Oct 30, 2025

    We needed Cordova and didn’t even know it.

  • Oct 30, 2025

    @Andre_Mackonen

    DAMN. did almost TRIPLE the amount of sales that Luv is Rage 2 did in 2017. 2.74M units vs. 1.09M

  • Oct 30, 2025
    internet buddy

    None of these bullshit streams ar2 coming close to the pure sales Em, Nelly, 50, DMX, Pac, Biggie and Jay had

    I don’t think you can equate listenership between the two mediums very well

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
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    we also forget constatnly that the big three all died

    X, Pop Smoke, and Juice Wrld all were supposed to be the next gen

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