That's not true

ITS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE BLACK MUSIC DISTINCTIONS THEY HAD IN THE 60S

THEY MAY AS WELL JUST CALL THE CHART JIGABOO TUNES AT THIS RATE THEY WOULD BE MORE HONEST

Fakemink is an upcoming artist f***ing obviously the majority of streams aren’t from there nor did I ever claim it lol

To be clear I don’t mean 8x literally that was hyperbole

recordoftheday.com/on-the-move/news-press/luminate-2024-year-end-music-report-global-audio-streaming-grows-14-driven-by-ex-us-markets

one in every four U.S. streams (≈341 billion streams, ~25% share and it’s the largest

view.ceros.com/luminate-data/music-year-end-report-2024

Hip hop stayed #1 in 2024 but only lost a couple share points pop rock Latin country all gained share points in dif markets if we talking pure money not streaming

ifpi.org/our-industry/industry-data

The 3rd biggest is pop at 12.7% market share of streams so it would have to increase by 2x specifically a 105% increase to lap hip hop
The #2 is rock and we all know how much of that is due to legacy acts

I’m ngl I thought country would be #3 by now but I forgot it’s only 8-9% so that means it would have to TRIPLE in market share to lap hip hop

% of streams from songs 5> years old goes
Rock - 73%
Pop - 56%
Hip hop/rnb - 47-50%

I have another post forgot which thread where I breakdown the amount of legacy acts and newer artists in pop, rap, and country and u will find

Rap historically has a way higher turnover rate than either and is only now getting close to pops and pop relies way more on older artists than rap lol like wayyy more our idea even of legacy artists doing the best is kinda novel to rap music

Sales wise who sold the most in pop and country?
Well country’s highest seller was cowboy Carter last year, pop’s past few years been Taylor, charli xcx has been around since 2013 etc etc

R&B has experienced growth but the genre is still struggling. the top R&B songs are all from last year aside from Nokia and maybe Burning Blue. even less popular artist like Leon Thomas biggest song is from last summer lmao

The top song from every genre this year are all songs from last year lol.

This week's billboard hip-hop/rnb chart has the first 6 spots taken by rnb songs. I'm not saying it's remotely close to taking over hiphop, but it's having a better year than the years before.

so this just circles back to my original point that all music is struggling thereby where you chose to focus on R&B…?

and a better year than the year before doesn’t really mean much when again, we’ve seen this same “slump” with rap in 2023 only for that same year for rap to take over until now we’re back to this conversation again

I just think it’s hilarious how this topic is only ever focused on presenting rap in a negative light cause no major artists decided to all drop at the same time while other genres finally have a plethora of talented artists for their fans to listen to lol

I just hate that they keep tryna correlate the decline in rap to an increase in other genres when it simply isn’t true and the statistics show it

rap has declined in consumption but other genres are still being listened to the same statistically once you divide out the growing listener base

meaning the listener base is increasing, but their market share is not increasing significantly, only rap is declining significantly because less fans of other genres are crossing over like they used to

The graph you posted had Rock gaining while rap was significantly declining... all while being bundled with a genre that is having a great year.

So no, all music isn't struggling.

i remember around 2018 when rap was on top and pop was struggling

there was a thread like pop music is dead and it has no future lol

And there's no slump in 2023

According to your graph, the genre peaked in 2020 and has been declining since

the chart I posted has rock oscillating up and down between 17% and 17.3% since 2019 it shows NOTHING lmfaoo

you keep ignoring where I said there are more people listening because less people are listening to rap, but those genres aren’t seeing any significant changes in market share

not so much less people listening to rap as much as more people listening to other stuff aswell

rap is down 3.7 billion streams compared to this time last year, both things are happening but it’s not making those other genres significantly bigger than they already are in market share. rap dropped 25%, those other genres didn’t increase equally or even significantly after that decline, which is why only looking at billboard don’t tell the real story of what’s happening in music

rap has just regressed to the levels of all the other genres, ending its dominance and the charts are reflecting that but other genres aren’t bigger than rap as a result of this happening, they are still at their same level

Rock is at 17.7% this year, which is the highest it's been ever (on that graph)

Rap/RnB has been declining since 2020.
I'm not sure what you're arguing tbh. I never said those genres were gaining significantly, but it's better for a genre to be stable than decline, no?

dont care psykotic and rest in bass out now

the decline is happening because they had an anomaly of dominance for a decade+ just LOOK at the number it’s declining from (50%+!!!)

Whole time you just wanted to tell me rap been the most dominant genre? I already knew that.

Ok fairs I haven’t seen the mid year report, I usually use end year reports tho cuz we see big drops usually last quarter in rap now anyway
I still agree with ur conclusion and yea that would make sense

Id attribute it lowk to the fact this year is like full transition stage end mode I feel like this year was mostly about new artists rising people and old guys falling, idk if it would stay like that but that’s purely theoretical we’ll have to see. Not a lot of major guys dropped albums so far other than Carti and thug

no, I’m trying to get people to understand that hiphops decline doesn’t mean other genres are bigger

it just means hiphop has finally slowed down after unprecedented levels dominance for years to meet the levels of all the other struggling genres being propped to like they not struggling as well due to this decrease

it’s just 2023 “is hiphop dying?” all over again. all the rappers have been dropping around the same time. Watch the conversation shift again in 2026

mmm yea true. I think the dif here is this feels like a very 09/2010 coded time where the old guard is falling aswell and theres big things to come with new artists, unlike how 2023 felt. We have yet to see doechii’s first album as someone in the spotlight, keem’s return, mink drop an album let alone use his connections on one or even get signed, so much can happen ah man

In 2023 I still remember mans were still on that drake so heavy when we were outside, the conversations shift now that’s the dif to me

I think rap has just had the unfortunate luck of having to provide a song/album for the season every season for the last 15 years and is still being held to that same fire today

we keep not giving the genre effective time to transition itself when we just experienced unprecedented changes and levels reached for damn near 30+ years with a shift in the genre every 3-5. what other genres doing that and staying up? It’s really unfair when you think about it

Great point, I agree well said.

the guy asked me for young ARTSY visionaries so I gave them, not mainstream superstars dummy dumb head

Yea bro wow the experimental rapper who’s sound is based on a psych ward job isn’t mainstream how shocking