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  • Jan 16, 2022
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    Nobody's saying Jay Z isnt a good artist, there just too many people who are better lyrically, and too many people who have better discographies for him to be ranked as high as he is.

    Take away his money and he's pretty much Snoop Dogg

  • Jan 16, 2022
    Water Giver

    Why would he try when its common knowledge that straight liqyor ignites fire thats like putting water on an electrical fire how u not know this 💀💀

    My G, you're taking this whole a***ogy too literally

  • Jan 16, 2022
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    CrippledGod

    Nobody's saying Jay Z isnt a good artist, there just too many people who are better lyrically, and too many people who have better discographies for him to be ranked as high as he is.

    Take away his money and he's pretty much Snoop Dogg

    You don't understand rap

    If you had a good ear for rapping you'd get it

  • Jan 16, 2022
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    J2422

    You don't understand rap

    If you had a good ear for rapping you'd get it

    Lool, I dont have enough intelligents to understand Jay Z god-tier rapping.

    Okay.

  • Jan 16, 2022
    CrippledGod

    Lool, I dont have enough intelligents to understand Jay Z god-tier rapping.

    Okay.

    Pretty much

  • Mmm Hmm 😆
    Jan 16, 2022

    Hov hasn't been good since AG

  • Mmm Hmm 😆
    Jan 16, 2022
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    MMLP slander in this thread?

    Wtf

  • Jan 16, 2022
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    Mmm Hmm

    MMLP slander in this thread?

    Wtf

    What you expect from people who think "made in the image of Christ, thats a selfie" is a fire bar.

  • Jan 16, 2022
    Bestowed

    Naw you don’t have to be black to comment on Jay Z. If you aren’t stanning Jay Z then the opinion isn’t valid. 😅

    Jay Z is essentially the Metallica of rap. Kanye is Pink Floyd.
    Run DMC is ofc The Rolling Stones.
    Each genre has its cornerstones. Miles, Coltrane, Parker etc.

    Everyone has their right to an opinion but to state something is overrated especially when you don’t understand it, one is better off keeping their mouth shut and learning more about the culture and what said music means.

    People have to accept what’s great & learn it. Jay doesn’t even write his lyrics down b lol folks are acting like dropping these concepts off the dome is a walk in the park

    I never doubted his rapping skills. But crafting songs and an album, nah he is not up there for me.

  • Jan 16, 2022
    CrippledGod

    What you expect from people who think "made in the image of Christ, thats a selfie" is a fire bar.

  • Mmm Hmm 😆
    Jan 16, 2022
    Bestowed

    Naw you don’t have to be black to comment on Jay Z. If you aren’t stanning Jay Z then the opinion isn’t valid. 😅

    Jay Z is essentially the Metallica of rap. Kanye is Pink Floyd.
    Run DMC is ofc The Rolling Stones.
    Each genre has its cornerstones. Miles, Coltrane, Parker etc.

    Everyone has their right to an opinion but to state something is overrated especially when you don’t understand it, one is better off keeping their mouth shut and learning more about the culture and what said music means.

    People have to accept what’s great & learn it. Jay doesn’t even write his lyrics down b lol folks are acting like dropping these concepts off the dome is a walk in the park

    Lupe wrote for jay

  • Jan 16, 2022
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    CrippledGod

    Nobody's saying Jay Z isnt a good artist, there just too many people who are better lyrically, and too many people who have better discographies for him to be ranked as high as he is.

    Take away his money and he's pretty much Snoop Dogg

    Seriously. Name a few. Come on.
    I'll take the bait.
    reasonable doubt, the blueprint, the black album and 4:44 are certified and proved classics. Not the ones you "kinda like" or the "its debatable.." 4 certified classics.
    For the exception of Ye, name me somebody who can claim that.
    Watch the throne is another classic. American Gangster is a debatable classic. Vol.2 is a great album. Check the longevity. Every great rapper of today is influenced by Jay. Drake Pusha Benny the Butcher Andre 3000... You cannott name one lyricist who does not praise Hov.
    The only reason you dont see it that way is like i said you are a kid who knows nothing about the complexicity of rap. So go study the artform. Go live and learn. And stop with those stupid ass debates man...

  • Jan 16, 2022

    lol you were probably born after black album came out shut your damn mouth lil dumpling

  • Jan 16, 2022
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    CrippledGod

    My nigga, I can guarantee I've studied the culture more than you have.

    I can also see that all Jay Z stans have to back up their claims about his greatness are vague allusions to White rockstars and his money.

    Oh, and also Beyonce, as if being married to someone makes them your possession.

    Go listen to D'evils, Can I live, Renegade, Grammy Family Freestyle, Minority Report, The NeverEnding Story, Jail, Fallin, I know, Moment of Clarity and tell me when he mentions his money. I could go on. So you dont know what you talking about. So stop.

  • No debate: followed by 25 pages of heated debate

  • Jan 16, 2022

    Wow, never seen this thread before

  • Jan 16, 2022
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    rather late

    Such a non argument lol

    Name me one ‘goat’ where this isnt the case

    The man this site is NAMED after is literally the most glaring example of image over content

    co🅿️e

    your tracking another man to defend some other nigga

    that ain’t 🅿️!

  • Jan 16, 2022

    is op pakyed

  • Jan 16, 2022

    well wayne way better than him if it means anything

  • Jan 16, 2022

    Hoe, Jay Z Hall of Fame, sit your punk ass down

  • Jan 16, 2022
    CrippledGod

    Nobody's saying Jay Z isnt a good artist, there just too many people who are better lyrically, and too many people who have better discographies for him to be ranked as high as he is.

    Take away his money and he's pretty much Snoop Dogg

    You never listened to much of Jay-Z nor Snoop Dogg saying s*** like this, lol.

  • Jan 16, 2022
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    medusethefilm

    Seriously. Name a few. Come on.
    I'll take the bait.
    reasonable doubt, the blueprint, the black album and 4:44 are certified and proved classics. Not the ones you "kinda like" or the "its debatable.." 4 certified classics.
    For the exception of Ye, name me somebody who can claim that.
    Watch the throne is another classic. American Gangster is a debatable classic. Vol.2 is a great album. Check the longevity. Every great rapper of today is influenced by Jay. Drake Pusha Benny the Butcher Andre 3000... You cannott name one lyricist who does not praise Hov.
    The only reason you dont see it that way is like i said you are a kid who knows nothing about the complexicity of rap. So go study the artform. Go live and learn. And stop with those stupid ass debates man...

    1. 4:44 is not a classic, talk less of an undeniable one. Neither is WTT. You letting the Hov echo chamber lead you wrong and I think you need to understand the difference between seminal works and above average albums.

    2. Lyricists praise pretty much every top tier rapper, I can name similar "great rappers" that Eminem, Nas and Snoop have influenced. These artists also have similar longevity.

    3. Jay Z is hardly the most complex lyricist, and I'm hardly a kid. Rage all you want, the fact remains that post-return from retirement Jay Z has dropped just one above average album and a slew of duds and he has been inconsistent as hell in his features.

  • Jan 16, 2022
    medusethefilm

    Go listen to D'evils, Can I live, Renegade, Grammy Family Freestyle, Minority Report, The NeverEnding Story, Jail, Fallin, I know, Moment of Clarity and tell me when he mentions his money. I could go on. So you dont know what you talking about. So stop.

    Can you read?

  • Jan 16, 2022
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    medusethefilm

    Go listen to D'evils, Can I live, Renegade, Grammy Family Freestyle, Minority Report, The NeverEnding Story, Jail, Fallin, I know, Moment of Clarity and tell me when he mentions his money. I could go on. So you dont know what you talking about. So stop.

    Wait, Jail?

    As in the song with Kanye?

    As in, "made in the image of Christ, that's a selfie"?

    Are you Hov fans serious?

  • Jan 16, 2022

    god tier rapper, massively influential, and a pretty solid discography.

    this is enough for him to be in my top 3 solidified.

    everything else is conjecture

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