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  • Dec 9, 2020

    There’s a difference between legality and morality.

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    cigaM

    the etika joycons are even worse

    someone out there is profiting from etika's name and brand name and thus his death, but also profiting from selling unlicensed moulds for a device they didnt make? foolish

    the guy "Alex" was gonna donate 10k to charity and many people have speculated that not only is it still wrong to sell them, he's got his own undisclosed profits from the sales

    All proceeds from the controller shells were reportedly donated to the JED Foundation, a mental health and suicide prevention charity. According to ‘Alex’, Etikons had generated over $10,000 for the charity by the end of 2019.
    Do you have to be skeptical of everything?

    What happened to innocent before proven guilty?

    Also, regarding Melee, Slippi is legal.

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    Luca

    All proceeds from the controller shells were reportedly donated to the JED Foundation, a mental health and suicide prevention charity. According to ‘Alex’, Etikons had generated over $10,000 for the charity by the end of 2019.
    Do you have to be skeptical of everything?

    What happened to innocent before proven guilty?

    Also, regarding Melee, Slippi is legal.

    everything you said i already read

    the $10,000 raised wasnt all of the money made just like every other charity

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    cigaM

    anti-consumer?

    nah g u should learn more and talk less if thats the term u wanna use

    Nintendo is very anti-consumer. You should know this from Mario 35, 3D All-Stars and lack of sales lol

  • Dec 9, 2020
    cigaM

    everything you said i already read

    the $10,000 raised wasnt all of the money made just like every other charity

    I mean anyone smart enough wouldn’t be mad if he took the rest of the money to cover production costs.

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    Luca

    Nintendo is very anti-consumer. You should know this from Mario 35, 3D All-Stars and lack of sales lol

    say that to 30 million MK8 sales on Switch

    or 30 million Animal Crossing sales

    im pretty sure they are pro-consumer by offering to develop and market those lol

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    cigaM

    say that to 30 million MK8 sales on Switch

    or 30 million Animal Crossing sales

    im pretty sure they are pro-consumer by offering to develop and market those lol

    Anti-consumerism is concerned with the private actions of business corporations in pursuit of financial and economic goals at the expense of the public welfare, especially in matters of environmental protection, social stratification, and ethics in the governing of a society.

    Nintendo does this often lol

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    Nintendo sells so much while being anti consumer a lot of the time because of Nintendo shills like you.

    They know they can get away with irl.

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    Luca

    Anti-consumerism is concerned with the private actions of business corporations in pursuit of financial and economic goals at the expense of the public welfare, especially in matters of environmental protection, social stratification, and ethics in the governing of a society.

    Nintendo does this often lol

    at the expense of public welfare?

    u really that hurt eh

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    cigaM

    at the expense of public welfare?

    u really that hurt eh

    Thousands of people’s jobs are on the line if Nintendo shuts down Slippi and Splatoon.

    Yes I’m upset

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    Luca

    Nintendo sells so much while being anti consumer a lot of the time because of Nintendo shills like you.

    They know they can get away with irl.

    im not a shill, f*** off with that

    you bought 3D All Stars and Paper Mario and tried to argue their value

    you never played BOTW yet

    the last time i gave Nintendo money was Xenoblade DE which was a blessing to us

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    Luca

    Thousands of people’s jobs are on the line if Nintendo shuts down Slippi and Splatoon.

    Yes I’m upset

    I'm actually on your side as far as that Splatoon incident goes, that is where Nintendo lost me..

    people should be allowed to protest

    but really only the people who have power should, not consumers who bought 3D All Stars and Paper Mario

    Slippi is not a necessity though, the risk was there from the start, and sure Slippi might not be illegal but it doesnt have to be supported by Nintendo no matter how anyone feels, thats just objectively valid

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    if u bought 3D All Stars u contributed to anti-consumerism

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    cigaM

    I'm actually on your side as far as that Splatoon incident goes, that is where Nintendo lost me..

    people should be allowed to protest

    but really only the people who have power should, not consumers who bought 3D All Stars and Paper Mario

    Slippi is not a necessity though, the risk was there from the start, and sure Slippi might not be illegal but it doesnt have to be supported by Nintendo no matter how anyone feels, thats just objectively valid

    Slippi IS a necessity in 2020 if Melee players want to stay safe from Covid

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    Luca

    Slippi IS a necessity in 2020 if Melee players want to stay safe from Covid

    but not to Nintendo though lol

    and they couldnt care less about a tournament that doesnt make them any actual money

    im not defending this im stating facts that arent exclusive to Nintendo

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    cigaM

    if u bought 3D All Stars u contributed to anti-consumerism

    I won’t disagree that I contributed to anti-consumerism but now I’ve seen the light and am drawing the line.

    I spend hours on hours watching Melee tournaments and now they are actively trying to hurt the Melee scene again so this is where I draw the line. I will not buy another Swirch game until they fix their actions.

    Might even buy the new Xbox just to spite Nintendo.

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    cigaM

    but not to Nintendo though lol

    and they couldnt care less about a tournament that doesnt make them any actual money

    im not defending this im stating facts that arent exclusive to Nintendo

    I mean they why couldn’t Nintendo just leave the community alone? We don’t even want Nintendo support anymore, we just want to be left alone to play the game we love.

  • Dec 9, 2020

    Melee is 20 years old and still fun. Ultimate is two years old and boring and stale to play with awful online.

    Melee is still the best Smash game and I will support that claim until I die.

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    Luca

    I mean they why couldn’t Nintendo just leave the community alone? We don’t even want Nintendo support anymore, we just want to be left alone to play the game we love.

    "Unfortunately, the upcoming Big House tournament announced plans to host an online tournament for Super Smash Bros. Melee that requires use of illegally copied versions of the game in conjunction with a mod called “Slippi” during their online event. Nintendo therefore contacted the tournament organizers to ask them to stop. They refused, leaving Nintendo no choice but to step in to protect its intellectual property and brands. Nintendo cannot condone or allow piracy of its intellectual property."

    and these events generate revenue, profit

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    cigaM

    "Unfortunately, the upcoming Big House tournament announced plans to host an online tournament for Super Smash Bros. Melee that requires use of illegally copied versions of the game in conjunction with a mod called “Slippi” during their online event. Nintendo therefore contacted the tournament organizers to ask them to stop. They refused, leaving Nintendo no choice but to step in to protect its intellectual property and brands. Nintendo cannot condone or allow piracy of its intellectual property."

    and these events generate revenue, profit

    It's not actually piracy. The entrants legally own Melee as well.

  • Dec 9, 2020

    I can't even get myself to watch Papa Genos videos anymore and he was my favorite youtuber.

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    Luca

    It's not actually piracy. The entrants legally own Melee as well.

    well thats not true actually and not just for the sake of arguing but yeah, each entrant is not using the ISO from their specific disk which means they are using a pirated distribution copy

    but thats honestly petty of Nintendo if each entrant does own a physical it shouldnt matter

    at this point its not about defending Nintendo but not being stupid enough to think 250,000 melee fans worldwide are gonna change anything with Animal Crossing being Nintendo's creme de la creme and 3D All Stars being a cash cow

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    im not against melee fans doing what they want but im also grown enough to know s*** sucks sometimes and u cant change it

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    cigaM

    im not against melee fans doing what they want but im also grown enough to know s*** sucks sometimes and u cant change it

    This mindset is the reason the world goes nowhere. When we need change, we need to make our voices heard.

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